This is a common misconception about Fusion 360, that you must rely on them to "keep your data safe". Yes they keep a copy (or actually Amazon keeps a copy as Autodesk rents space on Amazon S3.) but you can have copies locally too. The data is cached on your computer and most users will periodically save to the local computer and do backups.
So it is both ways. I like that they keep a copy. it is the ONLY way a distributed team can access the design. How will you work with others if the data is only on your PC. Please don't say you will email the files around. Then how to back out a change. You need a log. OK you can check in design files every few hours to Github. But that is using cloud storage too. The only good DIY option is to stand up yu own version control server so you can roll back from mistakes. OnShape does this best. But it is impossible to work if each team member has private copies of the data on his own computer. Just don't worry about losing data. You can keep it locally but in reality, Amazon S3 is 100 times more secure than anything you can afford to set up. Very few company make frequent off-site backups. Use whatever you like but don't make a decision based on a misconception. I even think "what happens if Fusion disappears?" So I keep the design backup up as STEP files that will import to any CAD system. alibre runs only on Windows, Fusion is windows/Mac. I think Solidworks in Windows only also. OnShape is universal and runs on the web. I think Onshape has the best data managment and is best for a distributed team. Fusion is 2nd place. From an ease of use, onshape and fusion are good. If you run Linus there is just one professional level option, OnShape BTW, as I type, I think I finally got the last part I need designed and checked. Time to print it. I should have the item below in about 22 hours [image: ZbaseplateNew.jpg] On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 11:33 PM andrew beck <andrewbeck0...@gmail.com> wrote: > john. slightly off topic.. I was going to message you direct but thought > others might be interested.. > > > I have been looking at alibre at the moment. > > I tried at 6 months ago and found it much harder to use than solidworks or > fusion360. But I am friends with a large company here that designs and > builds custom machines and exports them around the world. they use alibre > for everything so it must be pretty capable. (they even have a machine > shop in america. (this is just a little old new zealand company remember) > > anyway how did you find the learning curve. I am really keen to start > using something that is not cloud based like fusion 360. I think as a > company running a machine shop relying on autodesk halfway across the world > to keep my data safe is not a good thing. No matter what they say about > it. and if there is a good alternative I am all ears. I really dislike > cloud software. fusion 360 is awesome and I really like it. I will > probably always use it for some things that alibre cam can't do. and the > price is right but once again cloud software is a big no no in my book > > regards > > Andrew > > the > > On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 5:31 PM John Dammeyer <jo...@autoartisans.com> > wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Chris Albertson [mailto:albertson.ch...@gmail.com] > > > Sent: May-29-20 9:33 PM > > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] On Motorizing a BS-1 clone > > > > > > I'd place AlibreCAD on the list of "normal" or "modern" 3D CAD systems. > > > Like a scaled down version of Fusion, or SolidWorks. The workflow you > > use > > > is very conventional. Except AlibreCAD is "windows only" and not free. > > > > > > What workflow do you use for getting AlibreCAD designs to the CNC mill? > > > Does AlibreCAD have a CAM add-on or is there a 3rd party software. > One > > > of the things I like about Fusion is that it will directly make g-code > > for > > > a mill or lathe. I would like to hear from others how they go about > > going > > > from design to both printing and milling. > > > > It's called AlibreCAM and costs money too. It's a version of Mecsoft CAM > > that is integrated into AlibreCAD. So you can flip back and forth > between > > the two. When you load AlibreCAM from AlibreCAD it remembers that you > have > > CNC operations for the drawing and asks if you want them loaded. I have > > the level that supports the 4th axis. A new version has been released. > I > > haven't checked yet whether they have solved the 4th axis motion problem. > > But apparently that exists in a lot of CAM programs. > > > > A refresher. If you set F4 for the imperial machine then the feed rate > > is 4 IPM. If you want 4 IPM on a rotary object the system has to know > > where Z is relative to the axis of rotation to move the rotary axis at a > > speed that creates 4 IPM. As the diameter (Z axis) changes the rotary > > movement should change. > > > > This is similar to a CNC lathe changing the spindle speed as the X axis > > moves inwards to maintain the same SFM. > > > > There are aftermarket programs that will process G-Code to fix this for > > CAM programs that don't do it right. The last time I checked Mecsoft did > > not do it right. I don't believe Fusion does it either. > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 7:28 PM John Dammeyer <jo...@autoartisans.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I use AlibreCAD to draw the item. In this case half of a pulley > pattern > > > > for the mill conversion. I export the file as an STL. I then load > > that > > > > with Repetier which is configured for my printer. I can turn it and > > > > position it exactly where I want it on the print bed. I then slice > it > > and > > > > save the .gode file. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Chris Albertson > > > Redondo Beach, California > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Emc-users mailing list > > > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Emc-users mailing list > > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > > _______________________________________________ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California
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