On Sunday 02 August 2020 17:43:59 Bruce Layne wrote: > Gene: Send me your USPS address and I'll mail you a free glue stick > that's 99.44% coronavirus free. :-) > > Or buy a glue stick on Amazon. > > https://www.amazon.com/Elmers-Strength-Washable-1-4-Ounces-E590/dp/B00 >8M56Z0O > > Coronavirus not withstanding, it's seldom worth me making a 15 minute > trip to buy something like this when I can buy it online in a minute > and it's at my door a day or two later. Can't wait for Amazon Prime > drone delivery in 20 minutes. > > Use a nylon bristle brush to distribute the tiny bit of glue stick and > water on the glass plate, immediately before printing. I think the > scrubbing of fresh glue and water results in a high surface energy > that's needed for a good bond. > > The white glue experiments I tried resulted in something analogous to > a slick non-stick surface. I was surprised by that. It may have been > the result of the 110C bed temperature I was using for ABS. I didn't > try it with PLA or TPU. It failed with ABS and that's all I needed to > know. The glue stick and water works very well for ABS, PLA and TPU. > > I hope you enjoy glass & glue stick 3D printing as much as I do. The > trick is to get good adhesion to a hot bed and good release from a > cold bed so there are no failed prints and no need to hack and pry the > part off the build plate that results in a loss of bed level that > causes subsequent prints to fail and possible damage to the printer... > or at least damage and degradation to a plastic build surface. 3D > printing requires some patience because it's slow, but it shouldn't > require much labor and the process should be repeatable and reliable. > That's definitely an attainable goal, because I'm doing it. > > Others have already done a lot of 3D printing process development. > It's inefficient and frustrating to ignore the work of others and > repeat the painstaking development yourself. At this point, most > people buy a cheap 3D printer from a known good source (Sainsmart > should have been good to go),
That is what this one is! And it was AFU OOTB. > watch a few YouTube videos, and have > reasonable success out of the starting gate. It's been painful for me > to see you struggling with this. > Sorry, I didn't mean to be such a klutz. I'll see if I can hit someplace and get the right stuff on my way home tom. afternoon since I've got to be out anyway. > On 8/2/20 4:28 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 02 August 2020 15:12:39 Bruce Layne wrote: > >> On 8/2/20 2:43 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > >>> One the right in particular, there is no room for anything. About > >>> 1mm clearance between the plate and the upright carrying the PSU > >>> too. > >> > >> It's usually possible to pinch the wire handle on a bulldog clip > >> and lift the compressed handle out of the spring steel clip once > >> it's installed for a minimal clearance clip, although the curved > >> back on the spring steel will probably protrude more than 1mm. > >> > >>> But now its slightly > >>> cloudy with dried white school glue & lots of water mixed, so > >>> we'll see how the adhesion works. > >> > >> Based on my experience, the adhesion will be terrible. I tested > >> white Elmer's Glue-All and white Elmer's washable school glue and > >> both provided terrible ABS adhesion on glass. The only glue that's > >> worked well for me is glue stick. As I've repeatedly mentioned in > >> this ongoing 3D printing discussion, I use Elmer's X-Treme glue > >> stick. The thinnest possible application directly to glass > >> (applied with a pound or more of normal force to a cold glass > >> plate, with a slow steady motion) works well, but even better is a > >> small smudge of glue on the glass plate with a few grams of water, > >> evenly distributed across the glass plate to form a nearly > >> invisible glue film when dried. > > > > I have not "been to town" with a mask to get any of that. This was a > > small bottle of craft glue a good 15 yo I add an inch of water to > > and shook like a rattle gun paint can to get a wee bit of glue > > dissolved into the water. Mowing the grass, otherwise staying safe > > and out of sight here at the house. The Elmers is probably at CVS. > > This looks like heck but its sticking well after about 3 turns of > > the brim laydown. The initial clear the nozzle by running up and > > back on the left edge of the plate also stuck to clean glass, very > > close to as well as it stuck to the magnetic sign mat it came with. > > From that, I think clean glass is all it needs. OOTB and plastic > > wrap, it acted like it was waxed & water just pooled on it. Like a > > freshly waxed car. This part is only about 4 hours, its other > > mating half is about 8 or 9 cuz its taller and I need 3 of each yet. > > > > Thanks Bruce. > > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > > _______________________________________________ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
