On 6/29/21 3:07 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote:
On Tue, 2021-06-29 at 15:45 -0500, Bari wrote:
On 6/29/21 3:21 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote:

On Tue, 2021-06-29 at 13:42 -0600, R C wrote:
On 6/29/21 11:09 AM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote:
The whole purpose of a CoC is telling people how to behave with
respect
to each other. Basically you are free to think as you will
provided
that you act as the CoC says.

Regards

and that is why it is inappropriate, and useless, there is no way
you
can predict how/what  offends people (and nowadays. Creating
rules
for
what/how/when and to whom what can be said, well, there are
countries
where you can happily follow those rules.
This is what I think:

The point of a CoC is to tell people that the expected behavior is
to
act kindly with respect to each other, and the CoC must foresee and
provide means to resolve any controvercies that may arise, and do
this
kindly as much as possible in order to reestablish the community
aggregation and mutual respect.

I don't understand why there is so much friction on adopting a CoC,
the
vast majority of open source projects around the world has a CoC
which
is created, reviewed and accepted by community members.

The only point I can make is that we need a community revision and
voting of the CoC.

Regards

The problem is with what is perceived as acceptable and by whom.
Different people perceive things differently based on their
background,
experiences, education, parenting, intelligence, age, environment,
country they live in, etc. etc.

Another thing to consider is what is LinuxCNC? What is the board of
directors? is this a democracy or a dictatorship or something else?

It is incredible that after so many years those questions are still
open. They should have been resolved many years ago, when the community
was born.

Who
decides which persons that this applies to? Users, persons in IRC,
developers that wish to have their code included in the main
distribution, forum posters, etc who is this for and what is the
real
reason for this?

It is a slippery slope.
Usually the leadership is voted and elected by members, and the CoC
should be applied to *everything* involving the community, so Users,
persons in IRC, developers that wish to have their code included in the
main distribution, forum posters, visitors, external experts, and this
is not an exhaustive list.

You made a spelling mistake,  it is not spelled "leadership",  it typically is spelled "corrupt politicians"  or "business major with a bloated ego"


If it was leadership,  you'd go do something ..  and the rest would be following behind you,  which doesn't seem to be the case.








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