On Wed, 09 May 2018 17:17:14 +0000 Mike Blumenkrantz <michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> said:
> While I can see some summarization of meeting items on the relatively > obscure https://phab.enlightenment.org/V33, which is inaccessible to anyone > who has not been avidly following the mailing list archives--ie. will never > be visible to any new community members--this is not quite the same as > recording the minutes of a meeting. see the ticket that this was all about. it's there in the ticket itself in the body. that is where the conversation was happening so it's summarized there. https://phab.enlightenment.org/T6740 i don't see why etherpad is needed. we have plenty of tools on phab for this. no one disagreed with a wiki page. you were talking as if people need to have it explained to them what minutes are: "Typically for meetings where items of substance are discussed, the minutes will be recorded for posterity: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minutes"; marcel already said: "But i agree in general that there should be a wiki page for monitoring contents of the meetings and some them up." ... so again. i see no reason why minutes will not be taken and recorded. > Aside from the visibility issue (there should be a defined and documented > page on the wiki/site where all of the minutes/logs from meetings can be > found), here is an example of "good" minute-taking from a meeting that I > was present in: https://github.com/servo/servo/wiki/Meeting-2015-05-18 . > Note that this was a phone conference meeting, so someone was required to > more or less sit out of the meeting to transcribe its contents onto an > etherpad which everyone on the call was viewing during the call; since our > meetings are in text form, it should be far simpler to either cut+paste > notable statements or summarize them onto e.g., a > http://collabedit.com/ document > such as was previously suggested. i don't think we should just copy & paste the entire thing. i think there should be a summary of it like the ticket above has. if members of the meeting disagree with the summary then it can be altered etc. having to wade through an hour of irc log to know what a meeting was about is not a brilliant way of presenting information here IMHO. > On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 12:14 PM Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> > wrote: > > > On Wed, 09 May 2018 13:58:52 +0000 Mike Blumenkrantz > > <michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> said: > > > > > Typically for meetings where items of substance are discussed, the > > minutes > > > will be recorded for posterity: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minutes > > > > we already did that fr the past 2 irc meetings 2 weeks ago so i see no > > reason > > this won't be the same. > > > > > On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 1:26 PM Marcel Hollerbach <m...@bu5hm4n.de> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On 05/08/2018 06:35 PM, Mike Blumenkrantz wrote: > > > > > I think it's important to create a page which tracks meeting > > "minutes" > > > > for > > > > > each meeting so that at any time people can review the contents of > > > > meetings > > > > > they were unable to attend or, for newer community members, see what > > the > > > > > community has been doing recently. > > > > > > > > I am not exactly sure what you mean by "tracks meeting 'minutes'". > > > > I would create a event in the calendar, you can import them then to > > your > > > > private one and use the notifications you prefer for that event. > > > > > > > > But i agree in general that there should be a wiki page for monitoring > > > > contents of the meetings and some them up. I think there can be a > > script > > > > for that, as conduit seems to have a API for that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Probably the easiest way to do this would be to have something like > > an > > > > > etherpad where everyone can copy/paste/summarize things said on IRC > > and > > > > > then copy the contents of the etherpad to the wiki after the meeting > > > > ends. > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is http://collabedit.com which works without users etc. seems > > > > reasonable for me. What do you think? > > > > > > > > Greetings, > > > > bu5hm4n > > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 11:32 AM Stephen Houston < > > smhousto...@gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> Yes - We have already forgotten about so much of this. The review > > > > thread > > > > >> needs to be bumped and discussed more and the release thread needs > > to be > > > > >> bumped and discussed more as well. Everything has already gone back > > > > >> silent. > > > > >> > > > > >> On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 7:02 AM Simon Lees <sfl...@suse.de> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> On 08/05/18 21:24, Marcel Hollerbach wrote: > > > > >>>> Updated version: > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>> Rather then having to be subscribed to something (or as well as) > > it > > > > >>>>> would be nice if something sent a meeting reminder email to this > > list > > > > >>>>> 24hrs before each meeting as well. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> We can do that the first few weeks, but for the long term i would > > > > stick > > > > >>>> to subscribing to a group on phabricator, as everything else is a > > bit > > > > >>>> verbose IMO, and a few may just not be interested at all :) > > > > >>>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> I think it would be better to keep them, they will have an obvious > > > > >>> subject line that people who are not interested can filter out > > either > > > > >>> automatically or manually, just like its easy to see then not pay > > > > >>> attention to comments brought up about a specific patch you have no > > > > >>> interest in. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> It also means that new developers or potential developers in a > > year - > > > > >>> three years time will immediately be aware that we do irc meetings. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> But maybe this is just the opinion of someone who has learned to > > mostly > > > > >>> deal with getting 10,000+ emails a month and sees an extra 2 as no > > big > > > > >>> issue. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> -- > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek > > > > >>> SUSE Linux Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30 > > > > >>> GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > >>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > > > >>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > > > >>> enlightenment-devel mailing list > > > > >>> enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > >> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > > > >> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > >> enlightenment-devel mailing list > > > > >> enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > > > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > enlightenment-devel mailing list > > > > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > enlightenment-devel mailing list > > > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > > _______________________________________________ > > > enlightenment-devel mailing list > > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > > > > > > -- > > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- > > Carsten Haitzler - ras...@rasterman.com > > > > -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- Carsten Haitzler - ras...@rasterman.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
