This is actually similar to how many projects organize their meetings.
Having two separate meetings at "opposite" times allows everyone to have a
choice of meetings to attend with at least one of the times being optimal
for any given location. Using proper recording methods, everyone is then
able to see what happened at each meeting. In the meeting procedures page
(which should exist if it doesn't already), it should be documented that
the meeting notes should be sent to all related channels/lists after each
meeting to promote community involvement.

I think that if everyone is okay with at least one of these times then this
is fine, though it should be noted that this time schedule makes it awkward
for any particular region to attend both meetings; traditionally the time
rotates exactly 12 hours so that at least one timezone is capable of
attending every meeting.

The only adjustment I would make is that the meetings should be moved to
weekly in this case. If the meeting times rotate and are set for every two
weeks, this means that each group meets only once a month--hardly as useful.

On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 3:08 PM Stephen Houston <smhousto...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I'm well aware the other time slot allows for North Americans but it will
> then cut out anyone else.  That's the point I was making - there is going
> to be little crossover. between the two groups of people meeting - and I
> don't think that is a good thing.
>
> On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 2:06 PM Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 10 May 2018 14:55:07 +0000 Stephen Houston <
> smhousto...@gmail.com>
> > said:
> >
> > > This was the best time you could come up with for the meetings?  4-6AM
> > EST,
> > > 3-5AM CDT, 2-4AM MST, and 1-3AM PDT?  That pretty much means that no
> > North
> > > Americans are going to be present at all... at least with the time we
> > were
> > > using for the meetings previously, it is reasonable enough for North
> > > Americans, Europeans, and Asians to all attend whether it be 8AM on the
> > > west coast of US or 11PM for like indefini in Japan... sure that is
> > easier
> > > for US... but then you just flip that time for the second meeting and
> its
> > > still reasonable enough for all to attend but easier for indefini in
> > > Japan.  This is what I was expecting.  Not a time that is basically
> going
> > > to mean: US gets to meet the first meeting of the month with eachother
> > and
> > > then Eastern European/Asians get to meet with eachother the second
> > meeting
> > > of the month and there is no crossover (minus Western Europeans that
> can
> > > make both).  I foresee that as being bad and not really working out.
> >
> > ummm you need to look at the other time slot too. i don't think we're
> > going to
> > do 2hrs each...
> >
> > https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/?pl=1&lid=100,8,5,1850147&h=100
> >
> > so one is 1am/4am PDT/EDT an the other is 9am/12pm PDT/EDT. (CDT being in
> > between). and note on the other end with Japan (and Korea etc.) time.
> >
> > :) so they keep flipping between 2 times to try and let everyone attend
> at
> > least once a month.
> >
> > > On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 3:58 AM Marcel Hollerbach <m...@bu5hm4n.de>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 05/10/2018 09:22 AM, Simon Lees wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 10/05/18 13:20, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> > > > >> On Wed, 09 May 2018 17:17:14 +0000 Mike Blumenkrantz
> > > > >> <michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> said:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> While I can see some summarization of meeting items on the
> > relatively
> > > > >>> obscure https://phab.enlightenment.org/V33, which is
> inaccessible
> > to
> > > > anyone
> > > > >>> who has not been avidly following the mailing list archives--ie.
> > will
> > > > never
> > > > >>> be visible to any new community members--this is not quite the
> > same as
> > > > >>> recording the minutes of a meeting.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> see the ticket that this was all about. it's there in the ticket
> > itself
> > > > in the
> > > > >> body. that is where the conversation was happening so it's
> > summarized
> > > > there.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> https://phab.enlightenment.org/T6740
> > > > >>
> > > > >> i don't see why etherpad is needed. we have plenty of tools on
> phab
> > for
> > > > this.
> > > > >> no one disagreed with a wiki page.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> you were talking as if people need to have it explained to them
> what
> > > > minutes
> > > > >> are:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> "Typically for meetings where items of substance are discussed,
> the
> > > > minutes
> > > > >> will be recorded for posterity:
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minutes";
> > > > >>
> > > > >> marcel already said:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> "But i agree in general that there should be a wiki page for
> > monitoring
> > > > >> contents of the meetings and some them up."
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ... so again. i see no reason why minutes will not be taken and
> > > > recorded.
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > What I would like to see and I think what Mike is getting at is a
> > wiki
> > > > > page either on the main wiki or somewhere on phab, which atleast
> > lists
> > > > > all the links to the meeting summaries rather then just having
> > obscure
> > > > > phab links to them. Even better would be if all the summaries were
> > also
> > > > > just in one page so you didn't have to click links to follow the
> > > > > previous meetings.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yep, thats what i want to do on this page and the linked pages
> > > > https://phab.enlightenment.org/w/meetings/ :).
> > > >
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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