Another 2 words in favor of openid that I have read now on the site: openid is a distributed system, that means that you can be (with a simple php script) a 'provider'. In this way your privacy is preserved.
Dave ----- "Vincent Pomageot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > Hi all, > > I'm not sure if it could be a better choice than OpenID, but > OAuth<http://oauth.net/>seems worth look at.. > > Thanks to Morlenxus for the great get-e (and easy_e17.sh!!) and to the > new > team from Exchange ! > Let's connect E to the web ! > > > 2008/7/22 Sthithaprajna Garapaty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Exchange <- read the name! ;) Its not a one-way street > > You should be able to both download and upload. Its all about > sharing. > > Plus, how are you going to rate things and add comments if you > cannot > > authenticate? If you need to open a browser everytime, no one's > gonna > > do it and that'll kill the community aspect. > > > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Sevcsik András <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 9:40 PM, Sthithaprajna Garapaty > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> > > >> The biggest problem with OpenID is that its not very good for > desktop > > >> apps. (it requires a browser and too many steps to allow apps to > > >> authenticate) > > >> So, any apps that would use the exchange API would suffer.. > > >> There is a public authentication system from google that's > similar to > > >> openID but friendlier for desktop apps, and I would lean more > towards > > >> this. > > > > > > Why would apps had to deal with authentication? Authentication is > needed > > for > > > contributing and commenting on stuff, which is done in the > browser. > > > Downloading stuff doesn't require authentication, and that's what > desktop > > > applications would do. Or am I wrong? > > > > > >> > > >> However, this means everyone needs a google account, and looks > like > > >> there are already concerns about privacy from google. > > >> Let me know if there are any other authentication systems worth > looking > > >> into. > > >> Otherwise, we can come up with an ultrasimple system of our > own.... > > >> (or use Exchange's!) > > >> > > >> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Dave Andreoli > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > ----- "Ethan Grammatikidis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > > >> > > > >> >> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:12:02 +0200 (CEST), "Dave Andreoli" > > >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > >> >> > > > >> >> > ----- "Sthithaprajna Garapaty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha > scritto: > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Dan Kronstal > > >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> >> > > wrote: > > >> >> > > > This seems like a really nice addition to the site, and > a > > >> >> little > > >> >> > > more > > >> >> > > > cohesive than a separate site for themes and such, but > as a > > >> >> general > > >> >> > > comment > > >> >> > > > on the e.org site it seems that it might be better to > have a > > >> >> unified > > >> >> > > account > > >> >> > > > system. i have separate accounts for wiki.e.org, > forum.e.org, > > >> >> and > > >> >> > > now > > >> >> > > > exchange.e.org? surely there's a better way... > > >> >> > > You're forgetting bugzilla & trac > > >> >> > > > >> >> > ...and forgetting also the users map! > > >> >> > Yes it's crazy to have all this account verification system, > I > > >> >> think > > >> >> > the only reasonable solution is the use of openid.net (like > every > > >> >> site > > >> >> > should do) in every service we have. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > We do want to integrate them all so there's a single > sign-on, but > > >> >> > > because they are all separate systems, this might be a lot > of > > >> >> work.. > > >> >> > > Any volunteers?........ > > >> >> > > > >> >> > I could change the login system of the user map to openid > > >> >> > Dave > > >> >> > > >> >> How trustworthy is openid? I see they are linked to AOL and > Yahoo, > > >> >> who > > >> >> might not be as well-known for data collection as Google, but > I would > > >> >> be > > >> >> greatly surprised if those services don't collect user data. I > also > > >> >> wouldn't believe what I hear. Much the same goes for other > companies > > >> >> in > > >> >> their list. AFAIK data collection on customers/users is normal > for > > >> >> corporations today, unless stated otherwise in legally-binding > terms. > > >> >> There is no mention of privacy at all on openid.net's front > page, > > >> >> which > > >> >> I find distinctly worrying. No link to a 'privacy policy' is > unusual > > >> >> nowadays. > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > I don't know exactly, I never used this service, but on the > site they > > >> > say: > > >> > > > >> > Who Owns or Controls OpenID? > > >> > > > >> > OpenID has arisen from the open source community to solve the > problems > > >> > that could not be easily solved by other existing technologies. > OpenID > > is a > > >> > lightweight method of identifying individuals that uses the > same > > technology > > >> > framework that is used to identify websites. As such, OpenID is > not > > owned by > > >> > anyone, nor should it be. Today, anyone can choose to be an > OpenID > > user or > > >> > an OpenID Provider for free without having to register or be > approved > > by any > > >> > organization. > > >> > > > >> > The OpenID Foundation was formed to assist the open source > model by > > >> > providing a legal entity to be the steward for the community by > > providing > > >> > needed infrastructure and generally helping to promote and > support > > expanded > > >> > adoption of OpenID. > > >> > > > >> > As Brad Fitzpatrick (the father of OpenID) said, "Nobody should > own > > >> > this. Nobody's planning on making any money from this. The goal > is to > > >> > release every part of this under the most liberal licenses > possible, > > so > > >> > there's no money or licensing or registering required to play. > It > > benefits > > >> > the community as a whole if something like this exists, and > we're all > > a part > > >> > of the community." > > >> > > > >> > This statement continues to resonate today within the OpenID > > community. > > >> > ------------------ > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > As to the actual subject, i really like the presentation > of the > > >> >> site > > >> >> > > (actual > > >> >> > > > full screenshots of themes and stuff is great!), and the > fact > > >> >> that > > >> >> > > as a user > > >> >> > > > i could do some feedback, or make my own contributions > one day. > > >> >> > > That's > > >> >> > > > fantastic! > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > Thanks > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > Dan > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > >> > Toma wrote: > > >> >> > > >> > > Ladies and Gentlemen! > > >> >> > > >> > > > > >> >> > > >> > > We are proud to announce the launch of Exchange: > > >> >> > > >> > > http://www.exchange.enlightenment.org > > >> >> > > >> > > > > >> >> > > >> > > This is a new website for exchanging themes, efl > based > > >> >> > > applications > > >> >> > > >> > > and modules for these applications. It was built > > >> >> specifically > > >> >> > > for E, > > >> >> > > >> > > and therefore takes advantage of some of the > features of > > >> >> edje > > >> >> > > to > > >> >> > > >> > > automatically detect themes and allow users > > >> >> > > >> > > to find themes for exactly what they want to theme. > > >> >> > > >> > > > > >> >> > > >> > > Its also a nice place to showcase your applications > and > > >> >> will > > >> >> > > hopefully > > >> >> > > >> > > become a central location for people to look for > EFL based > > >> >> > > apps. > > >> >> > > >> > > > > >> >> > > >> > > We ask that developers and themers all spend a > couple > > >> >> minutes > > >> >> > > looking > > >> >> > > >> > > around, create an account and upload some content > as the > > >> >> only > > >> >> > > work on > > >> >> > > >> > > there so far is a few modules and all of my work. > > >> >> Remember, > > >> >> > > this is a > > >> >> > > >> > > great way to get some feedback on your content and > for > > >> >> users to > > >> >> > > show > > >> >> > > >> > > some appreciation for all your hard effort! > > >> >> > > >> > > > > >> >> > > >> > > > > >> >> > > >> > > For those that want to develop apps that pull/push > themes > > >> >> from > > >> >> > > the > > >> >> > > >> > > Exchange, we have a full API documented here: > > >> >> > > >> > > > http://code.google.com/p/e17-exchange/wiki/ExchangeAPI > > >> >> (please > > >> >> > > direct > > >> >> > > >> > > any questions about the API to iamsthitha) > > >> >> > > >> > > > > >> >> > > >> > > mcalamelli is already working on an application > that will > > >> >> let > > >> >> > > you > > >> >> > > >> > > download and install themes from exchange without > having > > >> >> to > > >> >> > > visit the > > >> >> > > >> > > website and go through the hassle of installing > them. > > >> >> > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > > http://staff.get-e.org/?p=users/mcalamelli/exchange.git;a=summary > > >> >> > > >> > > (this is still in very early stages as of 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