Hi all,

I'm not sure if it could be a better choice than OpenID, but
OAuth<http://oauth.net/>seems worth look at..

Thanks to Morlenxus for the great get-e (and easy_e17.sh!!) and to the new
team from Exchange !
Let's connect E to the web !


2008/7/22 Sthithaprajna Garapaty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Exchange <- read the name! ;) Its not a one-way street
> You should be able to both download and upload. Its all about sharing.
> Plus, how are you going to rate things and add comments if you cannot
> authenticate? If you need to open a browser everytime, no one's gonna
> do it and that'll kill the community aspect.
>
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Sevcsik András <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 9:40 PM, Sthithaprajna Garapaty
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> The biggest problem with OpenID is that its not very good for desktop
> >> apps.  (it requires a browser and too many steps to allow apps to
> >> authenticate)
> >> So, any apps that would use the exchange API would suffer..
> >> There is a public authentication system from google that's similar to
> >> openID but friendlier for desktop apps, and I would lean more towards
> >> this.
> >
> > Why would apps had to deal with authentication? Authentication is needed
> for
> > contributing and commenting on stuff, which is done in the browser.
> > Downloading stuff doesn't require authentication, and that's what desktop
> > applications would do. Or am I wrong?
> >
> >>
> >> However, this means everyone needs a google account, and looks like
> >> there are already concerns about privacy from google.
> >> Let me know if there are any other authentication systems worth looking
> >> into.
> >> Otherwise, we can come up with an ultrasimple system of our own....
> >> (or use Exchange's!)
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Dave Andreoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > ----- "Ethan Grammatikidis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto:
> >> >
> >> >> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:12:02 +0200 (CEST), "Dave Andreoli"
> >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ----- "Sthithaprajna Garapaty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > > On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Dan Kronstal
> >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >> > > wrote:
> >> >> > > > This seems like a really nice addition to the site, and a
> >> >> little
> >> >> > > more
> >> >> > > > cohesive than a separate site for themes and such, but as a
> >> >> general
> >> >> > > comment
> >> >> > > > on the e.org site it seems that it might be better to have a
> >> >> unified
> >> >> > > account
> >> >> > > > system. i have separate accounts for wiki.e.org, forum.e.org,
> >> >> and
> >> >> > > now
> >> >> > > > exchange.e.org? surely there's a better way...
> >> >> > > You're forgetting bugzilla & trac
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ...and forgetting also the users map!
> >> >> > Yes it's crazy to have all this account verification system, I
> >> >> think
> >> >> > the only reasonable solution is the use of openid.net (like every
> >> >> site
> >> >> > should do) in every service we have.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > We do want to integrate them all so there's a single sign-on, but
> >> >> > > because they are all separate systems, this might be a lot of
> >> >> work..
> >> >> > > Any volunteers?........
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I could change the login system of the user map to openid
> >> >> > Dave
> >> >>
> >> >> How trustworthy is openid? I see they are linked to AOL and Yahoo,
> >> >> who
> >> >> might not be as well-known for data collection as Google, but I would
> >> >> be
> >> >> greatly surprised if those services don't collect user data. I also
> >> >> wouldn't believe what I hear. Much the same goes for other companies
> >> >> in
> >> >> their list. AFAIK data collection on customers/users is normal for
> >> >> corporations today, unless stated otherwise in legally-binding terms.
> >> >> There is no mention of privacy at all on openid.net's front page,
> >> >> which
> >> >> I find distinctly worrying. No link to a 'privacy policy' is unusual
> >> >> nowadays.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > I don't know exactly, I never used this service, but on the site they
> >> > say:
> >> >
> >> > Who Owns or Controls OpenID?
> >> >
> >> > OpenID has arisen from the open source community to solve the problems
> >> > that could not be easily solved by other existing technologies. OpenID
> is a
> >> > lightweight method of identifying individuals that uses the same
> technology
> >> > framework that is used to identify websites. As such, OpenID is not
> owned by
> >> > anyone, nor should it be. Today, anyone can choose to be an OpenID
> user or
> >> > an OpenID Provider for free without having to register or be approved
> by any
> >> > organization.
> >> >
> >> > The OpenID Foundation was formed to assist the open source model by
> >> > providing a legal entity to be the steward for the community by
> providing
> >> > needed infrastructure and generally helping to promote and support
> expanded
> >> > adoption of OpenID.
> >> >
> >> > As Brad Fitzpatrick (the father of OpenID) said, "Nobody should own
> >> > this. Nobody's planning on making any money from this. The goal is to
> >> > release every part of this under the most liberal licenses possible,
> so
> >> > there's no money or licensing or registering required to play. It
> benefits
> >> > the community as a whole if something like this exists, and we're all
> a part
> >> > of the community."
> >> >
> >> > This statement continues to resonate today within the OpenID
> community.
> >> > ------------------
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > As to the actual subject, i really like the presentation of the
> >> >> site
> >> >> > > (actual
> >> >> > > > full screenshots of themes and stuff is great!), and the fact
> >> >> that
> >> >> > > as a user
> >> >> > > > i could do some feedback, or make my own contributions one day.
> >> >> > > That's
> >> >> > > > fantastic!
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > Thanks
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > Dan
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > >> > Toma wrote:
> >> >> > > >> > > Ladies and Gentlemen!
> >> >> > > >> > >
> >> >> > > >> > > We are proud to announce the launch of Exchange:
> >> >> > > >> > > http://www.exchange.enlightenment.org
> >> >> > > >> > >
> >> >> > > >> > > This is a new website for exchanging themes, efl based
> >> >> > > applications
> >> >> > > >> > > and modules for these applications. It was built
> >> >> specifically
> >> >> > > for E,
> >> >> > > >> > > and therefore takes advantage of some of the features of
> >> >> edje
> >> >> > > to
> >> >> > > >> > > automatically detect themes and allow users
> >> >> > > >> > > to find themes for exactly what they want to theme.
> >> >> > > >> > >
> >> >> > > >> > > Its also a nice place to showcase your applications and
> >> >> will
> >> >> > > hopefully
> >> >> > > >> > > become a central location for people to look for EFL based
> >> >> > > apps.
> >> >> > > >> > >
> >> >> > > >> > > We ask that developers and themers all spend a couple
> >> >> minutes
> >> >> > > looking
> >> >> > > >> > > around, create an account and upload some content as the
> >> >> only
> >> >> > > work on
> >> >> > > >> > > there so far is a few modules and all of my work.
> >> >> Remember,
> >> >> > > this is a
> >> >> > > >> > > great way to get some feedback on your content and for
> >> >> users to
> >> >> > > show
> >> >> > > >> > > some appreciation for all your hard effort!
> >> >> > > >> > >
> >> >> > > >> > >
> >> >> > > >> > > For those that want to develop apps that pull/push themes
> >> >> from
> >> >> > > the
> >> >> > > >> > > Exchange, we have a full API documented here:
> >> >> > > >> > > http://code.google.com/p/e17-exchange/wiki/ExchangeAPI
> >> >> (please
> >> >> > > direct
> >> >> > > >> > > any questions about the API to iamsthitha)
> >> >> > > >> > >
> >> >> > > >> > > mcalamelli is already working on an application that will
> >> >> let
> >> >> > > you
> >> >> > > >> > > download and install themes from exchange without having
> >> >> to
> >> >> > > visit the
> >> >> > > >> > > website and go through the hassle of installing them.
> >> >> > > >> > >
> >> >> > >
> http://staff.get-e.org/?p=users/mcalamelli/exchange.git;a=summary
> >> >> > > >> > > (this is still in very early stages as of today, but is
> >> >> > > something to
> >> >> > > >> > > keep an eye on!)
> >> >> > > >> >
> >> >> > > >> >
> >> >> > >
> >> >>
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