On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 9:40 PM, Sthithaprajna Garapaty < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The biggest problem with OpenID is that its not very good for desktop > apps. (it requires a browser and too many steps to allow apps to > authenticate) > So, any apps that would use the exchange API would suffer.. > There is a public authentication system from google that's similar to > openID but friendlier for desktop apps, and I would lean more towards > this. Why would apps had to deal with authentication? Authentication is needed for contributing and commenting on stuff, which is done in the browser. Downloading stuff doesn't require authentication, and that's what desktop applications would do. Or am I wrong? > However, this means everyone needs a google account, and looks like > there are already concerns about privacy from google. > Let me know if there are any other authentication systems worth looking > into. > Otherwise, we can come up with an ultrasimple system of our own.... > (or use Exchange's!) > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Dave Andreoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > ----- "Ethan Grammatikidis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > > > >> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:12:02 +0200 (CEST), "Dave Andreoli" > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >> > > >> > ----- "Sthithaprajna Garapaty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > >> > > >> > > On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Dan Kronstal > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > > wrote: > >> > > > This seems like a really nice addition to the site, and a > >> little > >> > > more > >> > > > cohesive than a separate site for themes and such, but as a > >> general > >> > > comment > >> > > > on the e.org site it seems that it might be better to have a > >> unified > >> > > account > >> > > > system. i have separate accounts for wiki.e.org, forum.e.org, > >> and > >> > > now > >> > > > exchange.e.org? surely there's a better way... > >> > > You're forgetting bugzilla & trac > >> > > >> > ...and forgetting also the users map! > >> > Yes it's crazy to have all this account verification system, I > >> think > >> > the only reasonable solution is the use of openid.net (like every > >> site > >> > should do) in every service we have. > >> > > >> > > > >> > > We do want to integrate them all so there's a single sign-on, but > >> > > because they are all separate systems, this might be a lot of > >> work.. > >> > > Any volunteers?........ > >> > > >> > I could change the login system of the user map to openid > >> > Dave > >> > >> How trustworthy is openid? I see they are linked to AOL and Yahoo, > >> who > >> might not be as well-known for data collection as Google, but I would > >> be > >> greatly surprised if those services don't collect user data. I also > >> wouldn't believe what I hear. Much the same goes for other companies > >> in > >> their list. AFAIK data collection on customers/users is normal for > >> corporations today, unless stated otherwise in legally-binding terms. > >> There is no mention of privacy at all on openid.net's front page, > >> which > >> I find distinctly worrying. No link to a 'privacy policy' is unusual > >> nowadays. > >> > > > > I don't know exactly, I never used this service, but on the site they > say: > > > > Who Owns or Controls OpenID? > > > > OpenID has arisen from the open source community to solve the problems > that could not be easily solved by other existing technologies. OpenID is a > lightweight method of identifying individuals that uses the same technology > framework that is used to identify websites. As such, OpenID is not owned by > anyone, nor should it be. Today, anyone can choose to be an OpenID user or > an OpenID Provider for free without having to register or be approved by any > organization. > > > > The OpenID Foundation was formed to assist the open source model by > providing a legal entity to be the steward for the community by providing > needed infrastructure and generally helping to promote and support expanded > adoption of OpenID. > > > > As Brad Fitzpatrick (the father of OpenID) said, "Nobody should own this. > Nobody's planning on making any money from this. The goal is to release > every part of this under the most liberal licenses possible, so there's no > money or licensing or registering required to play. It benefits the > community as a whole if something like this exists, and we're all a part of > the community." > > > > This statement continues to resonate today within the OpenID community. > > ------------------ > > > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > As to the actual subject, i really like the presentation of the > >> site > >> > > (actual > >> > > > full screenshots of themes and stuff is great!), and the fact > >> that > >> > > as a user > >> > > > i could do some feedback, or make my own contributions one day. > >> > > That's > >> > > > fantastic! > >> > > > > >> > > > Thanks > >> > > > > >> > > > Dan > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > Toma wrote: > >> > > >> > > Ladies and Gentlemen! > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > We are proud to announce the launch of Exchange: > >> > > >> > > http://www.exchange.enlightenment.org > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > This is a new website for exchanging themes, efl based > >> > > applications > >> > > >> > > and modules for these applications. It was built > >> specifically > >> > > for E, > >> > > >> > > and therefore takes advantage of some of the features of > >> edje > >> > > to > >> > > >> > > automatically detect themes and allow users > >> > > >> > > to find themes for exactly what they want to theme. > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > Its also a nice place to showcase your applications and > >> will > >> > > hopefully > >> > > >> > > become a central location for people to look for EFL based > >> > > apps. > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > We ask that developers and themers all spend a couple > >> minutes > >> > > looking > >> > > >> > > around, create an account and upload some content as the > >> only > >> > > work on > >> > > >> > > there so far is a few modules and all of my work. > >> Remember, > >> > > this is a > >> > > >> > > great way to get some feedback on your content and for > >> users to > >> > > show > >> > > >> > > some appreciation for all your hard effort! > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > For those that want to develop apps that pull/push themes > >> from > >> > > the > >> > > >> > > Exchange, we have a full API documented here: > >> > > >> > > http://code.google.com/p/e17-exchange/wiki/ExchangeAPI > >> (please > >> > > direct > >> > > >> > > any questions about the API to iamsthitha) > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > mcalamelli is already working on an application that will > >> let > >> > > you > >> > > >> > > download and install themes from exchange without having > >> to > >> > > visit the > >> > > >> > > website and go through the hassle of installing them. > >> > > >> > > > >> > > http://staff.get-e.org/?p=users/mcalamelli/exchange.git;a=summary > >> > > >> > > (this is still in very early stages as of today, but is > >> > > something to > >> > > >> > > keep an eye on!) > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > > >> > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move > >> > > 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