Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 12:10 AM, Nick Hughart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Michael Jennings wrote: >> >>> On Saturday, 02 August 2008, at 10:52:08 (+1000), >>> Carsten Haitzler wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> seems there's a few votes for keep of embryo. i'm going to just monitor the >>>> sentiment here - i'm agnostic really - though edje needs a LOT better >>>> "scripting" support. yes JS might be an option - python imho is just away >>>> too >>>> big and heavy. existing efl bindings are not really useful as edje will >>>> have to >>>> wrap and hide most things - ie you set up a timer - edje needs to know so >>>> it >>>> can delete the timer on edje object deletion. just an example. so it's >>>> pretty >>>> much a level playing field based on: >>>> >>>> 1. efficiency of the language - the leaner/faster, the better >>>> 2. actual language ease of use/documentation/facilities. etc. >>>> 3. aptness of the language engine to embedding as a slave to a library for >>>> doing code logic (ie be able to function fully sandboxed without any >>>> features/calls and all calls are explicitly exported from edje). >>>> >>>> lua right now seems to be probably the candidate i've seen. embryo is a >>>> close >>>> second (used to be better than lua). >>>> >>>> >>> Python is definitely too bulky and unstable (i.e., moving target). >>> Perl is a stationary target but still too heavy. Even JS might be too >>> much, and it's not really a speed demon. >>> >>> I know rpm5 is using lua to great success. It's clean, fast, and easy >>> to embed. I'll also reiterate my recommendation of ferite for the >>> same reasons. (I personally prefer ferite's syntax to lua's, but lua >>> seems to have won the popularity contest.) >>> >>> >> I'd also throw a vote out for ferite, the author of it was once involved >> with E wasn't he? If anything I know he'd be very interested with an >> integration in edje as I've personally been asked by him if anyone had >> considered it :) I might even take a close look at lua and ferite so I >> can make a more informed decision :) >> >> Just so I'm aware, is there anything outstanding in lua that embryo >> can't do? Is it just the wide-spread usage of lua and it's >> documentation that make it worth the switch or is it syntactically >> better, provide better performance, etc? >> > > Since Edje is target at designers (ie: colors are not premul, etc), I > think we should go with JS since most designers know it somehow, even > if they don't really know, they think they do and they will not be > afraid of trying it... Also, many systems use it as scripting > language, comes to mind Photoshop, Qt-based applications and it's the > official language of KDE for exactly that reason. I remember INdT > designers hacking some Photoshop scripts just because they knew bits > of JS from web development. > > Lua is good, yes, but I think that going with a more widespread > language is the way to go. >
I wouldn't say lua isn't widespread, it's used in quite a few things including interface customization in World of Warcraft where it provides the power to do some pretty advanced user interfaces. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
