On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 7:51 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
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> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 01:35:39 -0300 "Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
>
>> > I wouldn't say lua isn't widespread, it's used in quite a few things
>> > including interface customization in World of Warcraft where it provides
>> > the
>> > power to do some pretty advanced user interfaces.
>>
>> Yes, it's not a small niche as Embryo, but know many people customizes
>> WoW? I know other games uses it as well, but now you compare all of
>> them together with number of web developers out there, it's so small
>> you can't even have a comparison.
>
> dude! lua is a brazilian invention! aren't you guys patriotic enough to back
> your own language! :) hehheheheheheh
:-P and if you want more arguments, Brazilian Digital TV standard uses
Lua for one of the interactive standard (lua + xml, the other being
java).
> seriously - look at where lua is ised - WoW, adobe photoshop (lightroom), sim
> city 4, crysis, farcry, homeworld 2...
some years ago it was very hard to find a small and lean js implementation.
> i think actually its heavy use in the game world says something about lua to
> me. the game authors are much more concerned about speed and efficiency than
> your average "web designer". sure - js may be a bit more accessible, but ...
> let's be realistic.. this is efl - e. they have had to learn edc and get to
> grips with a whole new api within a language... they are definitely the people
> willing to learn a little more.. :)
but maybe it's not up to them to decide? Maybe it was imposed by the
tech guys somehow (like at INdT, ProFUSION...), so they have to learn
EDC and {embryo,lua}.
> but as such - lua seems to be perfect. it's a small library, well supported,
> license is good, it's targetted at generally being embedded and sandboxed
> heavily, and being small and fast. it's definitely got a lot of the checkboxes
> filled... that's for sure.
JS will fill most of them too.
> personally i'd rather take the high road and take the best technical solution
> over one for political/publicity image purposes.
I think that both are at the same level, this is like optimizing the
code that is not the hot path, if it's not the hot path, make it
easier to read, to use, to understand... that's my point for JS.
That said, I don't care too much if it's JS or Lua, for me it would be
a minimally easier to use JS as I know the language, but I don't mind
using Lua. But we need to evaluate other options to end with
yet-another-embryo. Using JS will not impact badly, but can bring more
marketing and good public image to E to use something that people
know... as you were saying on the other threads, E needs more
developers, needs better marketing and these things can help.
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Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
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