On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 23:40:42 -0500 "Hisham Mardam Bey"
<hisham.mardam...@gmail.com> babbled:
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 8:24 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
> <barbi...@profusion.mobi> wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Luchezar Petkov
> > <luchezar.pet...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
> >> <barbi...@profusion.mobi> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I did basic categorization of enlightenment items and also remove the
> >>> idea to drop 16bpp engines as we'll use it in our projects.
> >>>
> >>> most showstopper atm is file manager items, I think we can do without
> >>> them so would flag them (all, or at least most of them) as "optional".
> >>
> >> I'd disagree with you here. A nice fm is really important to the end users.
> >> Using external file browser is just an ugly way (imo) and would 1) make
> >> less experienced users ask lots of questions about how to deal with files
> >> when using E (and why (and how) should they bother installing external fm)
> >> and 2) probably distro packagers are going to pack E with Thunar or
> >> something and I don't like that.
> >> I'm aware that the fm is probably one of the hardest things to do in E17,
> >> but it is too important to just... not finish it.
> >
> > But it's mostly working for "joe-the-user". Sure, having things like
> > Ctrl-{x,c,v} is good, but not hard or blocking.
> >
>
> I would just like to point something out quickly here. We (the EFL /
> E17 team) have waited so long before doing a release that anything
> that is not "perfect and done" is going to prove exactly what a lot of
> the public thinks of EFL / E17; namely that its vapor ware that will
> never be completed. We can't afford to release anything that is half
> done after this extremely long time period of "working on E17".
>
> Had we done smaller incremental releases we could have afforded to
> introduce incomplete features every now and then, right now, I
> personally think we should take that bit of extra time to really
> finish and polish anything that is incomplete or simply exclude it
> from the release plan and release it afterward as an E17.1 or E17.2.
agreed. and the fm needs to be functional and useful. small things are easy but
core improvements need to be done.
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