On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
<barbi...@profusion.mobi> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Luca De Marini
> <luca.darkmas...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 2009/4/9 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <barbi...@profusion.mobi>
>>> and please, let's try to get these things upstream into debian, ubuntu
>>> and others. At least the base libraries and e17 itself.
>>>
>>
>> Of course. We will be in upstream, I'm sure of it, when we'll be stable. For
>> Ubuntu at least. I don't know debian policies but Ubuntu won't host
>> officially our E17 packages unless they are stable. So, whenever libraries
>> will become stable, we'll be able to ask Ubuntu to host them in their
>> officla repos and time by time, the entire E will hopefully be in Ubuntu :)
>> Don't worry, we'll strictly collaborate, if you wish, to transform this into
>> reality.
>
> often we become unstable, with things like moving ecore/evas to eina
> data types and major refactors, but other than that it works, maybe
> better than most software that is labeled as "stable". Also, it is not
> true that everything in Ubuntu/Debian is stable and all, you can see
> how many packages break now and then, how many request you to export
> weird -DI_KNOW_THIS_IS_UNSTABLE_API and all.
>

They break the interfaces at a slower pace, though :)
That's IMO the sole reason for e17 not being in ubuntu: it's hard to
push it to a stable release knowing that you'll have to support it for
a long time, during which at least half a dozen API changes will
happen. Otherwise, I would have uploaded the whole stack in ubuntu a
long time ago (and as said on IRC, I plan on uploading what's
currently in debian experimental to ubuntu when it's possible)

As for the schedule, I think it's better no to plan on the packagers
being able to deliver packages within a day. You probably know there
are a lot of packaging rules (even if the SVN packaging doesn't really
care about them, as it would be a pain, like packages renaming when
there's an interface break and so on), and updating the packages may
take time. I think we could just skip the first build, that will give
some more time.

Cheers,
Albin

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