On the 3 month cycle, is this time frame based on amount of current
work on E or just a random number? Might want to make sure the dates
are realistic in relation to E devs commitments.

Toma

On 4/10/09, Albin Tonnerre <albin.tonne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
> <barbi...@profusion.mobi> wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Luca De Marini
>> <luca.darkmas...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 2009/4/9 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <barbi...@profusion.mobi>
>>>> and please, let's try to get these things upstream into debian, ubuntu
>>>> and others. At least the base libraries and e17 itself.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Of course. We will be in upstream, I'm sure of it, when we'll be stable.
>>> For
>>> Ubuntu at least. I don't know debian policies but Ubuntu won't host
>>> officially our E17 packages unless they are stable. So, whenever
>>> libraries
>>> will become stable, we'll be able to ask Ubuntu to host them in their
>>> officla repos and time by time, the entire E will hopefully be in Ubuntu
>>> :)
>>> Don't worry, we'll strictly collaborate, if you wish, to transform this
>>> into
>>> reality.
>>
>> often we become unstable, with things like moving ecore/evas to eina
>> data types and major refactors, but other than that it works, maybe
>> better than most software that is labeled as "stable". Also, it is not
>> true that everything in Ubuntu/Debian is stable and all, you can see
>> how many packages break now and then, how many request you to export
>> weird -DI_KNOW_THIS_IS_UNSTABLE_API and all.
>>
>
> They break the interfaces at a slower pace, though :)
> That's IMO the sole reason for e17 not being in ubuntu: it's hard to
> push it to a stable release knowing that you'll have to support it for
> a long time, during which at least half a dozen API changes will
> happen. Otherwise, I would have uploaded the whole stack in ubuntu a
> long time ago (and as said on IRC, I plan on uploading what's
> currently in debian experimental to ubuntu when it's possible)
>
> As for the schedule, I think it's better no to plan on the packagers
> being able to deliver packages within a day. You probably know there
> are a lot of packaging rules (even if the SVN packaging doesn't really
> care about them, as it would be a pain, like packages renaming when
> there's an interface break and so on), and updating the packages may
> take time. I think we could just skip the first build, that will give
> some more time.
>
> Cheers,
> Albin
>
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