On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:41:26 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
<[email protected]> said:

> On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Vincent Torri <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Sat, 12 Nov 2011, Jonathan Armani wrote:
> >
> >> Yep, enough word have been said, I'm not interested in pushing diff /
> >> process anymore.
> 
> :-(
> 
> > raster, Jonathan was enthousiastic in porting e17 on OpenBSD. Now, if he is
> > still interested in using e17 (that's even not sure anymore), he will just
> > keep his patch privately, which is BAD.
> >
> > I try to be nice and polite, to talk about the EFL, e17, to attract people
> > so that they join our forces (and yes, i have really attracted new people
> > in IRC channels !). Now, you're repulsing them ! Fuck ! Just for some
> > patches that are not correctly written, you just upset people.
> >
> > Instead of saying more or less "your patches suck, we don't want them", why
> > not saying "hmm these patches are not good, because etc.. can you please
> > rewrite them that way ?" Is it too much for you, to be a bit polite ???
> >
> > Also, to be clear, I contact you on IRC about the private discussion I had
> > with Jonathan, talking to you about those patches. I clearly said that some
> > patches can be committed as-is, and some don't. I have warned you !!
> >
> > Now, I understand a bit more how I have to do the work : I don't talk to
> > you about stuff I know you won't be interested in (if you were interesting
> > in OpenBSD port, you won't have overreact like that). I'll do it myself
> > (like I did before I talked to you about those patches, it was working
> > nicely), talking privately to people, so that we could move on.
> >
> > I'm really really upset to see all my "behind the scene" work to attract
> > people destroyed, and to finally see that you make them leave to project.
> >
> > No need to answer to that mail. I won't read your answer. I don't want to
> > spend endless time answering for nothing.
> 
> +1 for Vincent's mail.
> 
> Raster, please try to improve your personal skills. Your attitude will
> get us nowhere.
> 
> And to be fair, if we apply this same attitude to everyone, your
> Edje-multisense patch would never get in. But it got, even tho people
> kindly asked you to remove it. You didn't.  That's all right, but then
> do not act like that with Jonathan.
> 
> See why "releases won't get us more developers?" Just being close to
> one (even close being undefined), we got one guy investing his spare
> time to help -> THIS IS HELP BROUGHT BY RELEASE. But even before the
> release we already scared him away :-(
> 
> 
> Jonathan, if there is still time, please reconsider your decision and
> keep working with us. Fortunately this project is not just about
> raster. If Vincent says he'll help you, he will do and Raster has
> nothing to do with it. If you need something feel free to ping me at
> IRC (k-s).

did you READ the log? you didn't i assume like everyone else. armani has a very
thin skin and simply got pissed off at someone saying the patches (which many
he didn't even write, but he took offence anyway) were bad.

hell no - i'm not apologizing for something i didn't do. READ THE LOG. i've
read it over now severla times looking for thigns that may be offensive. the
only thing i find is the general tone of "the patches are bad" and with
specific pointers to what is bad and why. that is called review. that's how it
works. read the log!

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