On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Vincent Torri <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Lucas De Marchi
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Leandro Pereira <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>> On 09/20/2012 03:28 AM, Michael Blumenkrantz wrote:
>>>> ah, if only we could do changelogs sanely like every other changelog in the
>>>> entire universe...
>>>
>>> I honestly thought Edje was stable enough that it didn't have recent
>>> changes -- and since ChangeLogs are traditionally written with newer
>>> entries on top, I just added mine there.
>>>
>>> I'll be more careful next time. I'll still mutter something about
>>> ChangeLogs being useless given we have commit messages (which can be as
>>> long as needed to explain stuff, is easier to merge, is as good a cold
>>> beer on a hot day, yadda yadda yadda), though.
>>
>> +1 to drop ChangeLog entirely.
>
> Here is the difference between you and me:
>
> you claim that YOU don't need a changelog because there are svn

I and all the others responding to this thread.

> commits, so every people on earth just have to install svn or look at
> a slow websvn to see the changes, even those which are just "oupsie!"
> etc...

Why the hell the user is looking to the changelog file? He shouldn't be.

It's not just me.  There are plenty of successful projects out there
that abandoned the stupid idea of maintaining a text file that is a
copy of what we have in our VCS. And if it isn't a copy, you are
requiring every single programmer to take his time to write plain
useless information there that nobody will read.

>
> me, who think  that an average user of a lib should not need to
> install svn (or git or etc...) or use a slow websvn to look quickly at
> a changelog file. And I say that because it was in that very
> situation.

Give the NEWS file to the user. Seriously, in what earth are you living on?

>
> You think only about yourself, i thnk about everyone.

YOU think only about yourself. I have the very same reasoning other
developers have, based on projects that abandoned the idea of a
ChangeLog. Just write well formatted commits - who needs that
information are the ones that will have git/svn/etc installed.


>
> It takes time to write entries but i'm not lazy. I take that time, on
> my very limited free time.


It's just a waste of our time. Sorry, but you need to argue better to
convince the world


Lucas De Marchi

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