On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 14:40:12 -0300 "Eduardo Lima (Etrunko)" <ebl...@gmail.com>
> said:
>
>> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Vincent Torri <vincent.to...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Lucas De Marchi
>> > <lucas.demar...@profusion.mobi> wrote:
>> >> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Leandro Pereira <lean...@profusion.mobi>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>> On 09/20/2012 03:28 AM, Michael Blumenkrantz wrote:
>> >>>> ah, if only we could do changelogs sanely like every other changelog in
>> >>>> the entire universe...
>> >>>
>> >>> I honestly thought Edje was stable enough that it didn't have recent
>> >>> changes -- and since ChangeLogs are traditionally written with newer
>> >>> entries on top, I just added mine there.
>> >>>
>> >>> I'll be more careful next time. I'll still mutter something about
>> >>> ChangeLogs being useless given we have commit messages (which can be as
>> >>> long as needed to explain stuff, is easier to merge, is as good a cold
>> >>> beer on a hot day, yadda yadda yadda), though.
>> >>
>> >> +1 to drop ChangeLog entirely.
>> >
>> > Here is the difference between you and me:
>> >
>> > you claim that YOU don't need a changelog because there are svn
>> > commits, so every people on earth just have to install svn or look at
>> > a slow websvn to see the changes, even those which are just "oupsie!"
>> > etc...
>> >
>> > me, who think  that an average user of a lib should not need to
>> > install svn (or git or etc...) or use a slow websvn to look quickly at
>> > a changelog file. And I say that because it was in that very
>> > situation.
>> >
>> > You think only about yourself, i thnk about everyone.
>> >
>> > It takes time to write entries but i'm not lazy. I take that time, on
>> > my very limited free time.
>> >
>>
>> We are all talking about developers here. Mr. Joe Average user will
>> not use unstable software from the control system, but the stable one
>> released with the generated changelog, be it manually or automatically
>> generated.
>
> i guess here's the difference. NEWs and ChangeLog are intended for digestion 
> at
> release time - ie sit in the tarball. the person compiling it (not a developer
> - packager etc.) digests these. he may use them roe package update/release
> notes, to see if he still needs to apply dome bugfix patch etc. etc.

And I'm arguing we only need one of those.


Lucas De Marchi

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