On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 21:45:23 -0600 ravenlock <ravenl...@ravenlock.us>
wrote:

> On 2/7/13 8:35 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> > On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 09:35:07 -0600 ravenlock
> > <ravenl...@ravenlock.us> said:
> > 
> >> On 1/30/13 5:32 AM, Bertrand Jacquin wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> For e5 buildbot/whatever we will need different OS and
> >>> architecture to test. So if some volunteer are free to build
> >>> some, we can gladly host them.
> >>>
> >>> Needed OS :
> >>>
> >>>  - Windows XP x86
> >>>  - Windows XP x86_64
> >>>  - Windows Vista x86_64
> >>>  - Windows 7 x86_64
> >>>  - Windows 8 x86_64
> >>
> >> What is the plan for licensing the above?
> > 
> > someone needs to actually pay for a proper license/copy. there is
> > no way i will allow us to use pirated copies of any software on our
> > infra. if we ask people to respect our licenses, be they bsd, gpl
> > or anything else, then we will respect theirs, regardless if they
> > are open or not.
> 
> I didn't propose pirating anything.  Didn't know if we were hoping for
> people to purchase and donate copies, send in old decommissioned
> personal copies, if we were using E-funds or whatnot.
> 
> > 
> >>>  (maybe more declination are needed ?)
> >>>
> >>>  - Mac OS X Snow Leopard
> >>>  - Mac OS X Lion
> >>>  - Mac OS X Mountain Lion
> >>
> >> This is easy and do'able if you have the Mac hardware and
> >> Parallels. Refurbed Mac Minis are like $500, you can stuff 16GB in
> >> them and a 1TB disk.  Works perfectly well.  Once upon a time
> >> there were E-funds being held.  We might tap into those?

Mac Mini's are just so damn cheap, even though a second hand one cost
as much as my entire PC was when I bought it new.

> > he's asking for vm's, not hardware. we can't do squat diddly with a
> > mac mini.
> 
> If you desire osx, you'll be duct taping that Mac Mini to your rack
> mounted colo.  ;)
> 
> > our server is in a rack in a server room/colo in oregon. :) i know
> > - osx expressly forbids being used on anything other than apple
> > hardware (vm's included).

I mentioned that all before.  Apple is really shooting themselves in
the foot being this hard on open source developers.  But the Mac users
come bitching to us about "why don't you support Mac???".  Telling them
it's all Apple's fault and I can't justify buying a Mac apparently
really gets under their skin, coz Macs are the perfect computer, why
would you not want one?

I do have a Mac Mini on my to buy list, but it's waaay down the bottom,
for when I have that sort of cash just laying around doing nothing.  I
looked at them in the store a couple of days ago, not as mini as I
thought they would be.  I'm gonna have trouble finding SPACE for the
damn thing.

So to all the whining Mac users - if Apple did not make it so fucking
hard to support them, then I'd be supporting them already.  Bitch to
Apple, it's not our fault.

-- 
A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants
coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world.

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