On 2/8/13 9:29 AM, Tom Hacohen wrote:
> On 08/02/13 15:20, Leif Middelschulte wrote:
>> Am Freitag, 8. Februar 2013 um 09:45 schrieb Stefan Schmidt:
>>> Hello.
>>>
>>> On 08/02/13 04:29, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 21:45:23 -0600 ravenlock <ravenl...@ravenlock.us 
>>>> (mailto:ravenl...@ravenlock.us)>
>>>> said:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2/7/13 8:35 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 09:35:07 -0600 ravenlock <ravenl...@ravenlock.us 
>>>>>> (mailto:ravenl...@ravenlock.us)>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/30/13 5:32 AM, Bertrand Jacquin wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For e5 buildbot/whatever we will need different OS and architecture
>>>> to
>>>>>>>> test. So if some volunteer are free to build some, we can gladly
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> host
>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Needed OS :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Windows XP x86
>>>>>>>> - Windows XP x86_64
>>>>>>>> - Windows Vista x86_64
>>>>>>>> - Windows 7 x86_64
>>>>>>>> - Windows 8 x86_64
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is the plan for licensing the above?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> someone needs to actually pay for a proper license/copy. there is no
>>>> way i
>>>>>> will allow us to use pirated copies of any software on our infra. if
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> we ask
>>>>>> people to respect our licenses, be they bsd, gpl or anything else,
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> then we
>>>>>> will respect theirs, regardless if they are open or not.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't propose pirating anything. Didn't know if we were hoping for
>>>>> people to purchase and donate copies, send in old decommissioned
>>>>> personal copies, if we were using E-funds or whatnot.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> sure - i'm just making it clear, that any such vm's must be installed
>>>> "above
>>>> board" with legitimate licenses for the vm os's :)
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This is kinda mood as nobody seems to actually want to setup and
>>> maintain these. I certainly will not touch windows for efl builds. And
>>> some point I would be willing to look into automated mingw64 build
>>> though, cross-compiled from Linux.
>>>
>>> I don't rule that somebody at some day may want to do this. But so far
>>> nobody showed up so we can happily ignore this.
>>>
>>>>>>>> (maybe more declination are needed ?)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Mac OS X Snow Leopard
>>>>>>>> - Mac OS X Lion
>>>>>>>> - Mac OS X Mountain Lion
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is easy and do'able if you have the Mac hardware and Parallels.
>>>>>>> Refurbed Mac Minis are like $500, you can stuff 16GB in them and a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1TB
>>>>>>> disk. Works perfectly well. Once upon a time there were E-funds
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> being
>>>>>>> held. We might tap into those?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> he's asking for vm's, not hardware. we can't do squat diddly with a
>>>> mac
>>>>>> mini.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you desire osx, you'll be duct taping that Mac Mini to your rack
>>>>> mounted colo. ;)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> which means its not going to happen. osx support in our buildbot/cluster
>>>> is not
>>>> an option until apple changes their licensing policies. so upstream
>>>> support ==
>>>> "whatever devs manage to do at home on their own machines if they have osx
>>>> boxen".
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My personal opinion is that we should just ignore this as well. They
>>> don't want people to devel something else then iOS apps. So why should
>>> we help them with our time?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I think that it's legal to run Mac OS Server in a virtual machine. But I'm 
>> not 100% sure about this. Maybe this information is outdated.
>>>
>>> A general idea we had was some way of having jenkins slaves that only
>>> report to the master. Leaving out the scary parts of a server
>>> controlling the PC in your home for doing the builds. I guess MacOSX
>>> would not care but I find it scary. :) Anyway, something like this is
>>> way down on my list. Way down.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Sounds even better.
>>
>> --
>> Leif
>>>
>>> regards
>>> Stefan Schmidt
>>>
>>>
> 
> Someone mentioned something about being allowed to run mac on a vm for 
> open source software development. I'm not sure it's true though.

Per OSX Eula:
(iii) to install, use and run up to two (2) additional copies or
instances of the Apple Software within virtual operating system
environments on each Mac Computer you own or control that is already
running the Apple Software, for purposes of: (a) software development;
(b) testing during software development; (c) using OS X Server; or (d)
personal, non-commercial use.

<myInterpretation>
Must own "Mac Computer" already legally running "Apple Software" (i.e.
osx) with virtualization software on it... then you may install an osx vm.
</myInterpretation>

> 
> But as Stefan said, we were already thinking about having a way for 
> "people" to report build status. So we'll be able to have crazy setups, 
> like Mac OS, PS3 and etc.
> 
> --
> Tom.
> 
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