On Fri, 08 Feb 2013 12:12:44 -0600 ravenlock <ravenl...@ravenlock.us> said:
> On 2/8/13 9:29 AM, Tom Hacohen wrote: > > On 08/02/13 15:20, Leif Middelschulte wrote: > >> Am Freitag, 8. Februar 2013 um 09:45 schrieb Stefan Schmidt: > >>> Hello. > >>> > >>> On 08/02/13 04:29, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > >>>> On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 21:45:23 -0600 ravenlock <ravenl...@ravenlock.us > >>>> (mailto:ravenl...@ravenlock.us)> said: > >>>> > >>>>> On 2/7/13 8:35 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > >>>>>> On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 09:35:07 -0600 ravenlock <ravenl...@ravenlock.us > >>>>>> (mailto:ravenl...@ravenlock.us)> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> said: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 1/30/13 5:32 AM, Bertrand Jacquin wrote: > >>>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> For e5 buildbot/whatever we will need different OS and architecture > >>>> to > >>>>>>>> test. So if some volunteer are free to build some, we can gladly > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> host > >>>>>>>> them. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Needed OS : > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> - Windows XP x86 > >>>>>>>> - Windows XP x86_64 > >>>>>>>> - Windows Vista x86_64 > >>>>>>>> - Windows 7 x86_64 > >>>>>>>> - Windows 8 x86_64 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> What is the plan for licensing the above? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> someone needs to actually pay for a proper license/copy. there is no > >>>> way i > >>>>>> will allow us to use pirated copies of any software on our infra. if > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> we ask > >>>>>> people to respect our licenses, be they bsd, gpl or anything else, > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> then we > >>>>>> will respect theirs, regardless if they are open or not. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> I didn't propose pirating anything. Didn't know if we were hoping for > >>>>> people to purchase and donate copies, send in old decommissioned > >>>>> personal copies, if we were using E-funds or whatnot. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> sure - i'm just making it clear, that any such vm's must be installed > >>>> "above > >>>> board" with legitimate licenses for the vm os's :) > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> This is kinda mood as nobody seems to actually want to setup and > >>> maintain these. I certainly will not touch windows for efl builds. And > >>> some point I would be willing to look into automated mingw64 build > >>> though, cross-compiled from Linux. > >>> > >>> I don't rule that somebody at some day may want to do this. But so far > >>> nobody showed up so we can happily ignore this. > >>> > >>>>>>>> (maybe more declination are needed ?) > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> - Mac OS X Snow Leopard > >>>>>>>> - Mac OS X Lion > >>>>>>>> - Mac OS X Mountain Lion > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> This is easy and do'able if you have the Mac hardware and Parallels. > >>>>>>> Refurbed Mac Minis are like $500, you can stuff 16GB in them and a > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> 1TB > >>>>>>> disk. Works perfectly well. Once upon a time there were E-funds > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> being > >>>>>>> held. We might tap into those? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> he's asking for vm's, not hardware. we can't do squat diddly with a > >>>> mac > >>>>>> mini. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> If you desire osx, you'll be duct taping that Mac Mini to your rack > >>>>> mounted colo. ;) > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> which means its not going to happen. osx support in our buildbot/cluster > >>>> is not > >>>> an option until apple changes their licensing policies. so upstream > >>>> support == > >>>> "whatever devs manage to do at home on their own machines if they have > >>>> osx boxen". > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> My personal opinion is that we should just ignore this as well. They > >>> don't want people to devel something else then iOS apps. So why should > >>> we help them with our time? > >>> > >>> > >> > >> I think that it's legal to run Mac OS Server in a virtual machine. But I'm > >> not 100% sure about this. Maybe this information is outdated. > >>> > >>> A general idea we had was some way of having jenkins slaves that only > >>> report to the master. Leaving out the scary parts of a server > >>> controlling the PC in your home for doing the builds. I guess MacOSX > >>> would not care but I find it scary. :) Anyway, something like this is > >>> way down on my list. Way down. > >>> > >>> > >> > >> Sounds even better. > >> > >> -- > >> Leif > >>> > >>> regards > >>> Stefan Schmidt > >>> > >>> > > > > Someone mentioned something about being allowed to run mac on a vm for > > open source software development. I'm not sure it's true though. > > Per OSX Eula: > (iii) to install, use and run up to two (2) additional copies or > instances of the Apple Software within virtual operating system > environments on each Mac Computer you own or control that is already > running the Apple Software, for purposes of: (a) software development; > (b) testing during software development; (c) using OS X Server; or (d) > personal, non-commercial use. > > <myInterpretation> > Must own "Mac Computer" already legally running "Apple Software" (i.e. > osx) with virtualization software on it... then you may install an osx vm. > </myInterpretation> which means "not us"... so apple can go away until it changes its policies. > > But as Stefan said, we were already thinking about having a way for > > "people" to report build status. So we'll be able to have crazy setups, > > like Mac OS, PS3 and etc. > > > > -- > > Tom. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Free Next-Gen Firewall Hardware Offer > > Buy your Sophos next-gen firewall before the end March 2013 > > and get the hardware for free! Learn more. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/sophos-d2d-feb > > _______________________________________________ > > enlightenment-devel mailing list > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > > > -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Free Next-Gen Firewall Hardware Offer Buy your Sophos next-gen firewall before the end March 2013 and get the hardware for free! 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