On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 13:28:41 -0300 Iván Briano <sachi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Let's give an official +1 for eldbus, given how > no one believes I was serious about the Platypus. Pfft, no one even noticed my Echidna, but I'll vote for it anyway. :-P > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Ray <r...@noplace.to> wrote: > > I guess my vote does not really count, but I would vote for > > +1 eldbus > > > > as well, I like the sould of it, El Dbus ... sounds clint eastwoody, > > > > best > > > > > > > > 2013/4/18 Michael Blumenkrantz <michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> > > > >> only if we can get someone to draw a logo of the word "dbus" > >> riding a mechanical bull while wearing a sombrero > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Jose Souza > >> <zehortig...@profusion.mobi > >> >wrote: > >> > >> > eldbus+1 > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Davide Andreoli < > >> d...@gurumeditation.it > >> > >wrote: > >> > > >> > > 2013/4/17 Cedric BAIL <cedric.b...@free.fr> > >> > > > >> > > > Cedric Bail > >> > > > On Apr 17, 2013 2:22 AM, "Tom Hacohen" > >> > > > <tom.haco...@samsung.com> > >> > wrote: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > On 17/04/13 02:28, Jérôme Pinot wrote: > >> > > > > > On 04/17/13 10:11, David Seikel wrote: > >> > > > > >> On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 20:57:33 -0300 Lucas De Marchi > >> > > > > >> <lucas.demar...@profusion.mobi> wrote: > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Carsten Haitzler > >> > > > > >>> <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: > >> > > > > >>>> On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 16:24:08 -0300 Lucas De Marchi > >> > > > > >>>> <lucas.demar...@profusion.mobi> said: > >> > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > >>>>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 4:13 PM, < > >> > > michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> > >> > > > > >>>>> wrote: > >> > > > > >>>>>> Tom Hacohen <tom.haco...@samsung.com> wrote: > >> > > > > >>>>>>> > >> > > > > >>>>>>> On 16/04/13 16:01, Lucas De Marchi wrote: > >> > > > > >>>>>>>> > >> > > > > >>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Tom Hacohen > >> > > > > >>>>>>>> <tom.haco...@samsung.com> wrote: > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> On 16/04/13 15:26, Lucas De Marchi wrote: > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Tom Hacohen > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> <tom.haco...@samsung.com> wrote: > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Hey guys, > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> How are you? I just noticed that 'edbus' > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> installs > >> headers > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> under: prefix/include/edbus-1 > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> while using the > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> pkgconfig name 'edbus2' > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the library name 'libedbus2' > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> and an header called 'EDbus.h'. > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Luckily for us, it's not too late to fix it. > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Only > >> > question, > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> what should > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> we > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> change it to? Everywhere with the 2 or > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> everywhere > >> without > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the 2? > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> E_DBus installed edbus.pc and libedbus.so - > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> that's why > >> we > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> needed to put a 2 in the name. > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> However the name is edbus and has no relations > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> with the previous library. It's not a new > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> version, it's a > >> complete > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> different one. So appending a "2" in headers > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> and include path is the wrong thing to do. > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> If ebus was available I would vote for that. It > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> seems we > >> > are > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> short in options for names. > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Lucas De Marchi > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> I understand putting the 2 was needed, but if we > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> add it > >> > once, > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> we should add > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> it everywhere. It's annoyingly inconsistent. > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Why did you choose 2 then? Why not 4? Or A? You > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> chose 2 because it's the > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> best explanation, as it is, although mostly > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> unrelated, > >> > e_dbus > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> v2. And if > >> > > > > >>>>>>>> > >> > > > > >>>>>>>> > >> > > > > >>>>>>>> because it was not me is the best explanation. > >> > > > > >>>>>>>> > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> that's good enough there, it's good enough > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> everywhere. > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> In conclusion, I see no harm in using edbus2 all > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> around > >> the > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> place. > >> > > > > >>>>>>>> > >> > > > > >>>>>>>> > >> > > > > >>>>>>>> it's not good enough there, even less > >> > > > > >>>>>>>> everywhere. The > >> > visible > >> > > > > >>>>>>>> part to the developer is the include path and the > >> namespace. > >> > > > > >>>>>>>> And these should reflect the library name. If > >> > > > > >>>>>>>> anything > >> > change > >> > > > > >>>>>>>> everything to something else, but don't put the 2 > >> > > > > >>>>>>>> there. > >> > > > > >>>>>>> > >> > > > > >>>>>>> > >> > > > > >>>>>>> > >> > > > > >>>>>>> Let's wait to see what others think, as we > >> > > > > >>>>>>> disagree about > >> the > >> > > > > >>>>>>> source of the problem, and that's: is this a major > >> > > > > >>>>>>> inconsistency that should be solved. > >> > > > > >>>>>>> > >> > > > > >>>>>>> Anyhow, regarding different names: I suggest > >> > > > > >>>>>>> edbus2. > >> > > > > >>>>>>> > >> > > > > >>>>>>> -- > >> > > > > >>>>>>> Tom. > >> > > > > >>>>>>> > >> > > > > >>>>>>> > >> > > > > >>>>>>> ________________________________ > >> > > > > >>>>>>> > >> > > > > >>>>>>> Precog is a next-generation analytics platform > >> > > > > >>>>>>> capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured > >> > > > > >>>>>>> data. The platform includes APIs for building apps > >> > > > > >>>>>>> and a phenomenal toolset > >> for > >> > > > > >>>>>>> data science. Developers can use our toolset for > >> > > > > >>>>>>> easy data analysis & visualization. Get a free > >> > > > > >>>>>>> account! > >> > > > > >>>>>>> http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter > >> > > > > >>>>>>> ________________________________ > >> > > > > >>>>>>> > >> > > > > >>>>>>> enlightenment-devel mailing list > >> > > > > >>>>>>> enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > >> > > > > >>>>>>> > >> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > >> > > > > >>>>>> > >> > > > > >>>>>> > >> > > > > >>>>>> I agree with whatever demarchi says. > >> > > > > >>>>> > >> > > > > >>>>> I disagree. > >> > > > > >>>>> > >> > > > > >>>>> > >> > > > > >>>>> oh, wait... > >> > > > > >>>>> > >> > > > > >>>>> Lucas De Marchi > >> > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > >>>> :-P ... i have to say though - consistency is good. > >> > > > > >>>> not just > >> for > >> > > > > >>>> devs, but packagers and anyone looking at their > >> > > > > >>>> filesystem. if things are named in a consistent > >> > > > > >>>> pattern it is easy to know > >> what > >> > > > > >>>> belongs where without needing package databases or > >> > > > > >>>> other > >> > forensics > >> > > > > >>>> tools. > >> > > > > >>> > >> > > > > >>> Sure it's good, no doubt. Just that renaming to edbus2 > >> > > > > >>> for the > >> > sake > >> > > > of > >> > > > > >>> consistency is even worse, not because of the rename, > >> > > > > >>> but > >> because > >> > > of > >> > > > > >>> the name chosen. > >> > > > > >>> > >> > > > > >>> ebus? anyone? > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> The name of the ebus goes 'round and 'round. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > As we all like E, I suggest edeebus > >> > > > > > >> > > > > +1 from me. > >> > > > > >> > > > For the fun I will give a +1 to edeebus to ! > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > I vote for the funny edeebus too :) > >> > > davemds > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > -- > >> > > > > Tom. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> > > > > Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of > >> > > > > advanced analytics on semi-structured data. 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