On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 23:50:16 +0100 Tom Hacohen <t...@stosb.com> said:
> bad. It sounds like a database. we actually have a db wrapper lib (we dont use anymore) called edb.. so thats right out. :) > On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 11:44 PM, thomasg <tho...@gstaedtner.net> wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 12:37 AM, Luis Felipe Strano Moraes > > <luis.str...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Lucas De Marchi < > > > lucas.demar...@profusion.mobi> wrote: > > > > > >> On Apr 17, 2013 11:49 AM, "Rafael Antognolli" <antogno...@gmail.com> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Cedric BAIL <cedric.b...@free.fr> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > Cedric Bail > > >> > > On Apr 17, 2013 2:22 AM, "Tom Hacohen" <tom.haco...@samsung.com> > > >> wrote: > > >> > >> > > >> > >> On 17/04/13 02:28, Jérôme Pinot wrote: > > >> > >> > On 04/17/13 10:11, David Seikel wrote: > > >> > >> >> On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 20:57:33 -0300 Lucas De Marchi > > >> > >> >> <lucas.demar...@profusion.mobi> wrote: > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Carsten Haitzler > > >> > >> >>> <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: > > >> > >> >>>> On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 16:24:08 -0300 Lucas De Marchi > > >> > >> >>>> <lucas.demar...@profusion.mobi> said: > > >> > >> >>>> > > >> > >> >>>>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 4:13 PM, < > > >> michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com > > >> > > > >> > >> >>>>> wrote: > > >> > >> >>>>>> Tom Hacohen <tom.haco...@samsung.com> wrote: > > >> > >> >>>>>>> > > >> > >> >>>>>>> On 16/04/13 16:01, Lucas De Marchi wrote: > > >> > >> >>>>>>>> > > >> > >> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Tom Hacohen > > >> > >> >>>>>>>> <tom.haco...@samsung.com> wrote: > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> On 16/04/13 15:26, Lucas De Marchi wrote: > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Tom Hacohen > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> <tom.haco...@samsung.com> wrote: > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Hey guys, > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> How are you? I just noticed that 'edbus' installs > > headers > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> under: prefix/include/edbus-1 > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> while using the > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> pkgconfig name 'edbus2' > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> the library name 'libedbus2' > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> and an header called 'EDbus.h'. > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Luckily for us, it's not too late to fix it. Only > > >> question, > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> what should > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> we > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> change it to? Everywhere with the 2 or everywhere > > without > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> the 2? > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> E_DBus installed edbus.pc and libedbus.so - that's why > > we > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> needed to put a 2 in the name. > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> However the name is edbus and has no relations with the > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> previous library. It's not a new version, it's a > > complete > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> different one. So appending a "2" in headers and include > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> path is the wrong thing to do. > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> If ebus was available I would vote for that. It seems we > > >> are > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> short in options for names. > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> Lucas De Marchi > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> I understand putting the 2 was needed, but if we add it > > >> once, > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> we should add > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> it everywhere. It's annoyingly inconsistent. > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> Why did you choose 2 then? Why not 4? Or A? You chose 2 > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> because it's the > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> best explanation, as it is, although mostly unrelated, > > >> e_dbus > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> v2. And if > > >> > >> >>>>>>>> > > >> > >> >>>>>>>> > > >> > >> >>>>>>>> because it was not me is the best explanation. > > >> > >> >>>>>>>> > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> that's good enough there, it's good enough everywhere. > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> In conclusion, I see no harm in using edbus2 all around > > the > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> place. > > >> > >> >>>>>>>> > > >> > >> >>>>>>>> > > >> > >> >>>>>>>> it's not good enough there, even less everywhere. The > > >> visible > > >> > >> >>>>>>>> part to the developer is the include path and the > > namespace. > > >> > >> >>>>>>>> And these should reflect the library name. If anything > > change > > >> > >> >>>>>>>> everything to something else, but don't put the 2 there. > > >> > >> >>>>>>> > > >> > >> >>>>>>> > > >> > >> >>>>>>> > > >> > >> >>>>>>> Let's wait to see what others think, as we disagree about > > the > > >> > >> >>>>>>> source of the problem, and that's: is this a major > > >> > >> >>>>>>> inconsistency that should be solved. > > >> > >> >>>>>>> > > >> > >> >>>>>>> Anyhow, regarding different names: I suggest edbus2. > > >> > >> >>>>>>> > > >> > >> >>>>>>> -- > > >> > >> >>>>>>> Tom. > > >> > >> >>>>>>> > > >> > >> >>>>>>> > > >> > >> >>>>>>> ________________________________ > > >> > >> >>>>>>> > > >> > >> >>>>>>> Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of > > >> > >> >>>>>>> advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform > > >> > >> >>>>>>> includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset > > for > > >> > >> >>>>>>> data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data > > >> > >> >>>>>>> analysis & visualization. Get a free account! > > >> > >> >>>>>>> http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter > > >> > >> >>>>>>> ________________________________ > > >> > >> >>>>>>> > > >> > >> >>>>>>> enlightenment-devel mailing list > > >> > >> >>>>>>> enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > >> > >> >>>>>>> > > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > >> > >> >>>>>> > > >> > >> >>>>>> > > >> > >> >>>>>> I agree with whatever demarchi says. > > >> > >> >>>>> > > >> > >> >>>>> I disagree. > > >> > >> >>>>> > > >> > >> >>>>> > > >> > >> >>>>> oh, wait... > > >> > >> >>>>> > > >> > >> >>>>> Lucas De Marchi > > >> > >> >>>> > > >> > >> >>>> :-P ... i have to say though - consistency is good. not just > > for > > >> > >> >>>> devs, but packagers and anyone looking at their filesystem. if > > >> > >> >>>> things are named in a consistent pattern it is easy to know > > what > > >> > >> >>>> belongs where without needing package databases or other > > >> forensics > > >> > >> >>>> tools. > > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> Sure it's good, no doubt. Just that renaming to edbus2 for the > > >> sake of > > >> > >> >>> consistency is even worse, not because of the rename, but > > because > > >> of > > >> > >> >>> the name chosen. > > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> ebus? anyone? > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> The name of the ebus goes 'round and 'round. > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > As we all like E, I suggest edeebus > > >> > >> > > >> > >> +1 from me. > > >> > > > > >> > > For the fun I will give a +1 to edeebus to ! > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > +1 from me too. > > >> > > >> What about eldbus? > > >> > > > > > > > > > +3 for eldbus > > > > > > and you can count +1 from sachiel, since he is spanish or something like > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> Lucas De Marchi > > >> > > >> > > > >> > -- > > >> > Rafael Antognolli > > >> > http://antognolli.org/ > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >> > Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced > > >> > analytics on semi-structured data. 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