On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 7:44 PM, thomasg <tho...@gstaedtner.net> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 12:37 AM, Luis Felipe Strano Moraes > <luis.str...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Lucas De Marchi < >> lucas.demar...@profusion.mobi> wrote: >> >>> On Apr 17, 2013 11:49 AM, "Rafael Antognolli" <antogno...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Cedric BAIL <cedric.b...@free.fr> >>> wrote: >>> > > Cedric Bail >>> > > On Apr 17, 2013 2:22 AM, "Tom Hacohen" <tom.haco...@samsung.com> >>> wrote: >>> > >> >>> > >> On 17/04/13 02:28, Jérôme Pinot wrote: >>> > >> > On 04/17/13 10:11, David Seikel wrote: >>> > >> >> On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 20:57:33 -0300 Lucas De Marchi >>> > >> >> <lucas.demar...@profusion.mobi> wrote: >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Carsten Haitzler >>> > >> >>> <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: >>> > >> >>>> On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 16:24:08 -0300 Lucas De Marchi >>> > >> >>>> <lucas.demar...@profusion.mobi> said: >>> > >> >>>> >>> > >> >>>>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 4:13 PM, < >>> michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com >>> > >>> > >> >>>>> wrote: >>> > >> >>>>>> Tom Hacohen <tom.haco...@samsung.com> wrote: >>> > >> >>>>>>> >>> > >> >>>>>>> On 16/04/13 16:01, Lucas De Marchi wrote: >>> > >> >>>>>>>> >>> > >> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Tom Hacohen >>> > >> >>>>>>>> <tom.haco...@samsung.com> wrote: >>> > >> >>>>>>>>> >>> > >> >>>>>>>>> On 16/04/13 15:26, Lucas De Marchi wrote: >>> > >> >>>>>>>>> >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Tom Hacohen >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> <tom.haco...@samsung.com> wrote: >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Hey guys, >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> How are you? I just noticed that 'edbus' installs headers >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> under: prefix/include/edbus-1 >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> while using the >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> pkgconfig name 'edbus2' >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> the library name 'libedbus2' >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> and an header called 'EDbus.h'. >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Luckily for us, it's not too late to fix it. Only >>> question, >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> what should >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> we >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> change it to? Everywhere with the 2 or everywhere without >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> the 2? >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> E_DBus installed edbus.pc and libedbus.so - that's why we >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> needed to put a 2 in the name. >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> However the name is edbus and has no relations with the >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> previous library. It's not a new version, it's a complete >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> different one. So appending a "2" in headers and include >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> path is the wrong thing to do. >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> If ebus was available I would vote for that. It seems we >>> are >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> short in options for names. >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> Lucas De Marchi >>> > >> >>>>>>>>> >>> > >> >>>>>>>>> >>> > >> >>>>>>>>> >>> > >> >>>>>>>>> >>> > >> >>>>>>>>> I understand putting the 2 was needed, but if we add it >>> once, >>> > >> >>>>>>>>> we should add >>> > >> >>>>>>>>> it everywhere. It's annoyingly inconsistent. >>> > >> >>>>>>>>> >>> > >> >>>>>>>>> Why did you choose 2 then? Why not 4? Or A? You chose 2 >>> > >> >>>>>>>>> because it's the >>> > >> >>>>>>>>> best explanation, as it is, although mostly unrelated, >>> e_dbus >>> > >> >>>>>>>>> v2. And if >>> > >> >>>>>>>> >>> > >> >>>>>>>> >>> > >> >>>>>>>> because it was not me is the best explanation. >>> > >> >>>>>>>> >>> > >> >>>>>>>>> that's good enough there, it's good enough everywhere. >>> > >> >>>>>>>>> >>> > >> >>>>>>>>> In conclusion, I see no harm in using edbus2 all around the >>> > >> >>>>>>>>> place. >>> > >> >>>>>>>> >>> > >> >>>>>>>> >>> > >> >>>>>>>> it's not good enough there, even less everywhere. The >>> visible >>> > >> >>>>>>>> part to the developer is the include path and the namespace. >>> > >> >>>>>>>> And these should reflect the library name. If anything change >>> > >> >>>>>>>> everything to something else, but don't put the 2 there. >>> > >> >>>>>>> >>> > >> >>>>>>> >>> > >> >>>>>>> >>> > >> >>>>>>> Let's wait to see what others think, as we disagree about the >>> > >> >>>>>>> source of the problem, and that's: is this a major >>> > >> >>>>>>> inconsistency that should be solved. >>> > >> >>>>>>> >>> > >> >>>>>>> Anyhow, regarding different names: I suggest edbus2. >>> > >> >>>>>>> >>> > >> >>>>>>> -- >>> > >> >>>>>>> Tom. >>> > >> >>>>>>> >>> > >> >>>>>>> >>> > >> >>>>>>> ________________________________ >>> > >> >>>>>>> >>> > >> >>>>>>> Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of >>> > >> >>>>>>> advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform >>> > >> >>>>>>> includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for >>> > >> >>>>>>> data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data >>> > >> >>>>>>> analysis & visualization. Get a free account! >>> > >> >>>>>>> http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter >>> > >> >>>>>>> ________________________________ >>> > >> >>>>>>> >>> > >> >>>>>>> enlightenment-devel mailing list >>> > >> >>>>>>> enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> > >> >>>>>>> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel >>> > >> >>>>>> >>> > >> >>>>>> >>> > >> >>>>>> I agree with whatever demarchi says. >>> > >> >>>>> >>> > >> >>>>> I disagree. >>> > >> >>>>> >>> > >> >>>>> >>> > >> >>>>> oh, wait... >>> > >> >>>>> >>> > >> >>>>> Lucas De Marchi >>> > >> >>>> >>> > >> >>>> :-P ... i have to say though - consistency is good. not just for >>> > >> >>>> devs, but packagers and anyone looking at their filesystem. if >>> > >> >>>> things are named in a consistent pattern it is easy to know what >>> > >> >>>> belongs where without needing package databases or other >>> forensics >>> > >> >>>> tools. >>> > >> >>> >>> > >> >>> Sure it's good, no doubt. Just that renaming to edbus2 for the >>> sake of >>> > >> >>> consistency is even worse, not because of the rename, but because >>> of >>> > >> >>> the name chosen. >>> > >> >>> >>> > >> >>> ebus? anyone? >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> The name of the ebus goes 'round and 'round. >>> > >> > >>> > >> > As we all like E, I suggest edeebus >>> > >> >>> > >> +1 from me. >>> > > >>> > > For the fun I will give a +1 to edeebus to ! >>> > > >>> > >>> > +1 from me too. >>> >>> What about eldbus? >>> >> >> >> +3 for eldbus >> >> and you can count +1 from sachiel, since he is spanish or something like >> that >> >> >> >>> >>> Lucas De Marchi >>> >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Rafael Antognolli >>> > http://antognolli.org/ >>> > >>> > >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> > Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced >>> > analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for >>> building >>> > apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use >>> > our toolset for easy data analysis & visualization. Get a free account! >>> > http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > enlightenment-devel mailing list >>> > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced >>> analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building >>> apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use >>> our toolset for easy data analysis & visualization. Get a free account! >>> http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter >>> _______________________________________________ >>> enlightenment-devel mailing list >>> enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel >>> >> > > To throw another one in the ring: how about not screwing with the e* > part, but with the dbus part: edb > Makes a nice, short namespace, with the downside of not including full "dbus". > Ebus is nice too, but implies that its another bus that is not dbus.
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