bad. It sounds like a database.
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 11:44 PM, thomasg <[email protected]> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 12:37 AM, Luis Felipe Strano Moraes > <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Lucas De Marchi < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > >> On Apr 17, 2013 11:49 AM, "Rafael Antognolli" <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Cedric BAIL <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > > Cedric Bail > >> > > On Apr 17, 2013 2:22 AM, "Tom Hacohen" <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> On 17/04/13 02:28, Jérôme Pinot wrote: > >> > >> > On 04/17/13 10:11, David Seikel wrote: > >> > >> >> On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 20:57:33 -0300 Lucas De Marchi > >> > >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Carsten Haitzler > >> > >> >>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> >>>> On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 16:24:08 -0300 Lucas De Marchi > >> > >> >>>> <[email protected]> said: > >> > >> >>>> > >> > >> >>>>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 4:13 PM, < > >> [email protected] > >> > > >> > >> >>>>> wrote: > >> > >> >>>>>> Tom Hacohen <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> >>>>>>> > >> > >> >>>>>>> On 16/04/13 16:01, Lucas De Marchi wrote: > >> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Tom Hacohen > >> > >> >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> On 16/04/13 15:26, Lucas De Marchi wrote: > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Tom Hacohen > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Hey guys, > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> How are you? I just noticed that 'edbus' installs > headers > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> under: prefix/include/edbus-1 > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> while using the > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> pkgconfig name 'edbus2' > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> the library name 'libedbus2' > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> and an header called 'EDbus.h'. > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Luckily for us, it's not too late to fix it. Only > >> question, > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> what should > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> we > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> change it to? Everywhere with the 2 or everywhere > without > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> the 2? > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> E_DBus installed edbus.pc and libedbus.so - that's why > we > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> needed to put a 2 in the name. > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> However the name is edbus and has no relations with the > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> previous library. It's not a new version, it's a > complete > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> different one. So appending a "2" in headers and include > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> path is the wrong thing to do. > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> If ebus was available I would vote for that. It seems we > >> are > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> short in options for names. > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> Lucas De Marchi > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> I understand putting the 2 was needed, but if we add it > >> once, > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> we should add > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> it everywhere. It's annoyingly inconsistent. > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> Why did you choose 2 then? Why not 4? Or A? You chose 2 > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> because it's the > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> best explanation, as it is, although mostly unrelated, > >> e_dbus > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> v2. And if > >> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>> because it was not me is the best explanation. > >> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> that's good enough there, it's good enough everywhere. > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> In conclusion, I see no harm in using edbus2 all around > the > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> place. > >> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>> it's not good enough there, even less everywhere. The > >> visible > >> > >> >>>>>>>> part to the developer is the include path and the > namespace. > >> > >> >>>>>>>> And these should reflect the library name. If anything > change > >> > >> >>>>>>>> everything to something else, but don't put the 2 there. > >> > >> >>>>>>> > >> > >> >>>>>>> > >> > >> >>>>>>> > >> > >> >>>>>>> Let's wait to see what others think, as we disagree about > the > >> > >> >>>>>>> source of the problem, and that's: is this a major > >> > >> >>>>>>> inconsistency that should be solved. > >> > >> >>>>>>> > >> > >> >>>>>>> Anyhow, regarding different names: I suggest edbus2. > >> > >> >>>>>>> > >> > >> >>>>>>> -- > >> > >> >>>>>>> Tom. > >> > >> >>>>>>> > >> > >> >>>>>>> > >> > >> >>>>>>> ________________________________ > >> > >> >>>>>>> > >> > >> >>>>>>> Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of > >> > >> >>>>>>> advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform > >> > >> >>>>>>> includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset > for > >> > >> >>>>>>> data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data > >> > >> >>>>>>> analysis & visualization. Get a free account! > >> > >> >>>>>>> http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter > >> > >> >>>>>>> ________________________________ > >> > >> >>>>>>> > >> > >> >>>>>>> enlightenment-devel mailing list > >> > >> >>>>>>> [email protected] > >> > >> >>>>>>> > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> > >> >>>>>> > >> > >> >>>>>> I agree with whatever demarchi says. > >> > >> >>>>> > >> > >> >>>>> I disagree. > >> > >> >>>>> > >> > >> >>>>> > >> > >> >>>>> oh, wait... > >> > >> >>>>> > >> > >> >>>>> Lucas De Marchi > >> > >> >>>> > >> > >> >>>> :-P ... i have to say though - consistency is good. not just > for > >> > >> >>>> devs, but packagers and anyone looking at their filesystem. if > >> > >> >>>> things are named in a consistent pattern it is easy to know > what > >> > >> >>>> belongs where without needing package databases or other > >> forensics > >> > >> >>>> tools. > >> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>> Sure it's good, no doubt. Just that renaming to edbus2 for the > >> sake of > >> > >> >>> consistency is even worse, not because of the rename, but > because > >> of > >> > >> >>> the name chosen. > >> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>> ebus? anyone? > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> The name of the ebus goes 'round and 'round. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > As we all like E, I suggest edeebus > >> > >> > >> > >> +1 from me. > >> > > > >> > > For the fun I will give a +1 to edeebus to ! > >> > > > >> > > >> > +1 from me too. > >> > >> What about eldbus? > >> > > > > > > +3 for eldbus > > > > and you can count +1 from sachiel, since he is spanish or something like > > that > > > > > > > >> > >> Lucas De Marchi > >> > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Rafael Antognolli > >> > http://antognolli.org/ > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> > Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced > >> > analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for > >> building > >> > apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use > >> > our toolset for easy data analysis & visualization. Get a free > account! > >> > http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > enlightenment-devel mailing list > >> > [email protected] > >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced > >> analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for > building > >> apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use > >> our toolset for easy data analysis & visualization. Get a free account! > >> http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter > >> _______________________________________________ > >> enlightenment-devel mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > >> > > > > To throw another one in the ring: how about not screwing with the e* > part, but with the dbus part: edb > Makes a nice, short namespace, with the downside of not including full > "dbus". > Ebus is nice too, but implies that its another bus that is not dbus. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced > analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building > apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use > our toolset for easy data analysis & visualization. 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