On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 2:26 PM, David Seikel <onef...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 13:28:41 -0300 Iván Briano <sachi...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Let's give an official +1 for eldbus, given how >> no one believes I was serious about the Platypus. > > Pfft, no one even noticed my Echidna, but I'll vote for it anyway. :-P >
Thinking some more about it, this is our chance to bring back Enema. >> >> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Ray <r...@noplace.to> wrote: >> > I guess my vote does not really count, but I would vote for >> > +1 eldbus >> > >> > as well, I like the sould of it, El Dbus ... sounds clint eastwoody, >> > >> > best >> > >> > >> > >> > 2013/4/18 Michael Blumenkrantz <michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> >> > >> >> only if we can get someone to draw a logo of the word "dbus" >> >> riding a mechanical bull while wearing a sombrero >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Jose Souza >> >> <zehortig...@profusion.mobi >> >> >wrote: >> >> >> >> > eldbus+1 >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Davide Andreoli < >> >> d...@gurumeditation.it >> >> > >wrote: >> >> > >> >> > > 2013/4/17 Cedric BAIL <cedric.b...@free.fr> >> >> > > >> >> > > > Cedric Bail >> >> > > > On Apr 17, 2013 2:22 AM, "Tom Hacohen" >> >> > > > <tom.haco...@samsung.com> >> >> > wrote: >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > On 17/04/13 02:28, Jérôme Pinot wrote: >> >> > > > > > On 04/17/13 10:11, David Seikel wrote: >> >> > > > > >> On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 20:57:33 -0300 Lucas De Marchi >> >> > > > > >> <lucas.demar...@profusion.mobi> wrote: >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Carsten Haitzler >> >> > > > > >>> <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: >> >> > > > > >>>> On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 16:24:08 -0300 Lucas De Marchi >> >> > > > > >>>> <lucas.demar...@profusion.mobi> said: >> >> > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > >>>>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 4:13 PM, < >> >> > > michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> >> >> > > > > >>>>> wrote: >> >> > > > > >>>>>> Tom Hacohen <tom.haco...@samsung.com> wrote: >> >> > > > > >>>>>>> >> >> > > > > >>>>>>> On 16/04/13 16:01, Lucas De Marchi wrote: >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>> >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Tom Hacohen >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>> <tom.haco...@samsung.com> wrote: >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> On 16/04/13 15:26, Lucas De Marchi wrote: >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Tom Hacohen >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> <tom.haco...@samsung.com> wrote: >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Hey guys, >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> How are you? I just noticed that 'edbus' >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> installs >> >> headers >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> under: prefix/include/edbus-1 >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> while using the >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> pkgconfig name 'edbus2' >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the library name 'libedbus2' >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> and an header called 'EDbus.h'. >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Luckily for us, it's not too late to fix it. >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Only >> >> > question, >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> what should >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> we >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> change it to? Everywhere with the 2 or >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> everywhere >> >> without >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the 2? >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> E_DBus installed edbus.pc and libedbus.so - >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> that's why >> >> we >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> needed to put a 2 in the name. >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> However the name is edbus and has no relations >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> with the previous library. It's not a new >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> version, it's a >> >> complete >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> different one. So appending a "2" in headers >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> and include path is the wrong thing to do. >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> If ebus was available I would vote for that. It >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> seems we >> >> > are >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> short in options for names. >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Lucas De Marchi >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> I understand putting the 2 was needed, but if we >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> add it >> >> > once, >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> we should add >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> it everywhere. It's annoyingly inconsistent. >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Why did you choose 2 then? Why not 4? Or A? You >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> chose 2 because it's the >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> best explanation, as it is, although mostly >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> unrelated, >> >> > e_dbus >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> v2. And if >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>> >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>> >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>> because it was not me is the best explanation. >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>> >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> that's good enough there, it's good enough >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> everywhere. >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> In conclusion, I see no harm in using edbus2 all >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> around >> >> the >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>>> place. >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>> >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>> >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>> it's not good enough there, even less >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>> everywhere. The >> >> > visible >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>> part to the developer is the include path and the >> >> namespace. >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>> And these should reflect the library name. If >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>> anything >> >> > change >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>> everything to something else, but don't put the 2 >> >> > > > > >>>>>>>> there. >> >> > > > > >>>>>>> >> >> > > > > >>>>>>> >> >> > > > > >>>>>>> >> >> > > > > >>>>>>> Let's wait to see what others think, as we >> >> > > > > >>>>>>> disagree about >> >> the >> >> > > > > >>>>>>> source of the problem, and that's: is this a major >> >> > > > > >>>>>>> inconsistency that should be solved. >> >> > > > > >>>>>>> >> >> > > > > >>>>>>> Anyhow, regarding different names: I suggest >> >> > > > > >>>>>>> edbus2. >> >> > > > > >>>>>>> >> >> > > > > >>>>>>> -- >> >> > > > > >>>>>>> Tom. >> >> > > > > >>>>>>> >> >> > > > > >>>>>>> >> >> > > > > >>>>>>> ________________________________ >> >> > > > > >>>>>>> >> >> > > > > >>>>>>> Precog is a next-generation analytics platform >> >> > > > > >>>>>>> capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured >> >> > > > > >>>>>>> data. The platform includes APIs for building apps >> >> > > > > >>>>>>> and a phenomenal toolset >> >> for >> >> > > > > >>>>>>> data science. Developers can use our toolset for >> >> > > > > >>>>>>> easy data analysis & visualization. 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Just that renaming to edbus2 >> >> > > > > >>> for the >> >> > sake >> >> > > > of >> >> > > > > >>> consistency is even worse, not because of the rename, >> >> > > > > >>> but >> >> because >> >> > > of >> >> > > > > >>> the name chosen. >> >> > > > > >>> >> >> > > > > >>> ebus? anyone? >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> The name of the ebus goes 'round and 'round. >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > As we all like E, I suggest edeebus >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > +1 from me. >> >> > > > >> >> > > > For the fun I will give a +1 to edeebus to ! >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > > I vote for the funny edeebus too :) >> >> > > davemds >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > > -- >> >> > > > > Tom. >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> > > > > Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of >> >> > > > > advanced analytics on semi-structured data. 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