On Wed, 22 Mar 2017 15:18:27 +0000 Tom Hacohen <t...@stosb.com> said:
> Heya, > > I personally think it's a bad idea to rely on a proprietary tool for > open source development, and from what I remember, I'm not the only > one. > This is partially why we self host git and not use Github et al. > > Long live IRC. > > https://xkcd.com/1782/ there are things slack does that irc doesn't - like work well with mobiles... but it does have downsides. like invite-only, closed, ... ultimately we should solve this ourselves: let's consider building a great IRC client (like express - work on it), and EXTEND irc. yes. let's do what MIRC did. but let's do it a little less annoyingly. we'd need to build some server infra to be able to upload data to (images, videos, audio, text etc.) and much like imgur./pastebin (our own screenshot thing for e and visible on http://www.enlightenment.org/ss ) ... allow a client to upload some displayable/sharable media and then just stuff a link into the channel. if you look at slack's irc gateway when you use a giphy image all it does is spew out: <nick> giphy: http://gipy.com/8267fv78s6238dx all you need is for an irc client to handle such things implicitly and convert such lines into an image box (and then download the image in the background and inline it once done)... this would be a major start to modernizing irc. whatever - we can argue about what should be done by default (download blurred out thumbnail and only download full sized image when clicked on - or just replace with a "download me" button... let's not get into that). the point is that using other messengers (slack, telegram, hangouts, whatsapp) people can do this and it looks nice and is convenient. yes people can abuse it yet such apps grow in popularity. so use an ancient irc client where you dont see this if you hate it (just a text url), or we can have options... but don't let this be a reason to NOT extend and improve. given a good irc client with such extensions we can get all of the benefits of something like slack BUT stick to open IRC servers and channels without fragmenting community. then there is the other problem. mobile. ultimately someone will need a mobile friendly server with proper remote (delayed) wakeups that don't require the phone to maintain wake locks... and then mobile clients. technically express could be recycled for tizen... and perhaps android if efl got good android support. similar story for ios... :) > -- > Tom > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > <barbi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I'm doing an experiment with slack.com as IRC alternative. I'm no > > expert in slack, first time I ever used, if you have more experience > > let me know so I can add you as admin. > > > > The biggest annoyance at the time is sign up that requires an > > invitation, I sent to some in this list, others can do based on > > domains such as @samsung.com, @osg.samsung.com and so on... but they > > do not allow comcast.net or gmail.com to auto-join. > > > > So if you want to join, let me know your email and I'll send the invitation. > > > > I've added some interesting plugins as people were demanding > > voice/video calls at some point, these 2 can be better than simply > > keeping a google Hangouts open all the time (and night!): > > > > /appear edevelop > > > > creates an appear.in video/voice chat https://appear.in/edevelop > > just click to join, no app or registration is required. Seems to have > > a 8 person limit. > > > > /hangout > > > > creates a hangout invitation link and post to channel, people can > > click to join. Marcel told it also has a limit on video users. > > > > Since we often need to remember people of stuff: > > > > /remind [@person or #channel] [what] [when] > > /remind me to drink water at 3pm every day > > /remind me on June 1st to wish Linda happy birthday > > /remind #team-alpha to update the project status every Monday at 9am > > /remind @jessica about the interview in 3 hours > > /remind @peter tomorrow "Please review the office seating plan" > > > > or: > > > > /todo @okra fix ephoto! > > /mytodo help vtorri with ecore-con on win32 > > > > > > It can integrate with jenkins as well, but I don't have the permission > > to do that in our jenkins. > > > > So far, the web-browser version is as usable as the app, at least on > > Linux/Chrome, so no install is required. It looks quite nice and also > > provides phone applications (iOS version is very good). I also liked > > that it have built-in "pastebin", just click the "[+]" at the left > > side of the message box to send one. > > > > > > -- > > Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > > -------------------------------------- > > Mobile: +55 (16) 99354-9890 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > _______________________________________________ > > enlightenment-devel mailing list > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
