On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 4:28 AM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: > On Fri, 20 Apr 2012 10:26:15 +0200 Francois <fan...@gmail.com> said: > >> >> Jeremy Quandt <quand...@hotmail.com >> <mailto:quand...@hotmail.com?Subject=Re:%20%20e17%20and%20eclipse%20-%20focus% >> 20problem>> wrote: >> > >> > I just wanted to add my 2 cents. I am using an Ubuntu 11.10 machine, >> > with the >> > ppa >> > https://launchpad.net/%7Ehannes-janetzek/+archive/enlightenment-svn and I >> > work daily using Eclipse to code and I often have window focusing >> > problems. For >> > java I have setup to use Sun's java >> > (/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java). >> > >> > I do have the GNOME Settings Daemon and a number of other Ubuntu stuff >> > launched >> > on startup, namely just to get the GTK windows looking right in >> > addition to the >> > network and proxy pieces working correctly. There is no ecomorph >> > running or >> > compiz. Mouse focus is set to click to focus. >> > >> > I really like e17, but the conflicts with Eclipse focusing is getting >> > harder to >> > accept. I haven't been able to fully list steps to reproduce yet, but >> > some of >> > the symptoms I have are as follows: >> > >> > 1.) Edit window looses focus (greyed out). If the text buffer has >> > changed it >> > won't allow me to save. File context "Save All" is also disallowed >> > even though >> > the buffer shows change. To save the file I have to close the tab for >> > the file, >> > which will then prompt me to save the file. I then have to dig through my >> > project to reopen the file. >> > >> > 2.) Select text in an editor for a file, find and Replace window (I >> > have mapped >> > to CTRL+F) when invoked will appear but the editor has lost focus so >> > the "Find" >> > button will be greyed out until the editor window is selected and the >> > Find & >> > Replace window is reselected. >> > >> > 3.) When debugging, the thread stack doesn't always allow switching a >> > thread >> > (seems to ignore the click). >> > >> > On a side note, Mono (debugger) also will crash when hovering over a >> > variable in >> > the watch window. A tooltip usually displays extended values of the >> > variable >> > (like a full string). >> > >> > Not sure what else I can do to help, but I will try to see if I can >> > get the >> > issue to be reproducible. >> >> >> For the record, I do experience similar problems, which disapear when I >> switch to Gnome, so it really seems to be a window manager problem. The >> point 1) above is really annoying for me. >> >> I use E17 from trunk with easy_e17.sh script on a Debian Sid machine, >> with an Eclipse 3.7.1 and a Java 7 (openJDK) JVM. >> >> I don't know how I could help solving these issues, but if I can help, I >> will be glad to. > > i'm going to give something very non-positive here now. look for mentions of > the word java in e17's src. and then look for the swear words right near it. > here is the reality of things: > > java's awt is built to emulate a windows style focus and behavior world. > having read some of its x11 layer code, it looks like it's written by some > junior programmer with little to no idea about x11. it tries make a x11+wm > world appear like the windows world. reality is that this is nigh impossible. > and doing so to work across wm's needs high levewls of skill, knowledge, > experience and needs care and effort. java has code (i've read it before) > SPECIFICALLY to detect a range of window managers and work around them, do > weird and wonderful things in each situation, and try all sorts of tricks to > get > things to happen that it wants. > > fact is that java doesn't respect icccm/netwm/x11 correctly and does hacks to > get its "write once, run anywhere" to work. i gave up working around java a > long time ago. i'm down to not really caring anymore as i've sunk 100's of > hours of trying to find "bugs" in e only to find it's java being a "dick". i > have little patience or time to bother anymore. > > patches (that don't totally screw e17's src) accepted. :) >
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=59639 seems like a eclipse bug with focus-window-under-mouse, should work when setting e's window focus to click-to-focus. I'm also currently not in the mood to fix this. But maybe I'll look after it some day. Regards, Hannes > -- > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. > Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. > Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 _______________________________________________ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
