On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 12:47 PM, hannes.janet...@gmail.com <hannes.janet...@googlemail.com> wrote: > On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 4:28 AM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> > wrote: >> On Fri, 20 Apr 2012 10:26:15 +0200 Francois <fan...@gmail.com> said: >> >>> >>> Jeremy Quandt <quand...@hotmail.com >>> <mailto:quand...@hotmail.com?Subject=Re:%20%20e17%20and%20eclipse%20-%20focus% >>> 20problem>> wrote: >>> > >>> > I just wanted to add my 2 cents. I am using an Ubuntu 11.10 machine, >>> > with the >>> > ppa >>> > https://launchpad.net/%7Ehannes-janetzek/+archive/enlightenment-svn and I >>> > work daily using Eclipse to code and I often have window focusing >>> > problems. For >>> > java I have setup to use Sun's java >>> > (/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java). >>> > >>> > I do have the GNOME Settings Daemon and a number of other Ubuntu stuff >>> > launched >>> > on startup, namely just to get the GTK windows looking right in >>> > addition to the >>> > network and proxy pieces working correctly. There is no ecomorph >>> > running or >>> > compiz. Mouse focus is set to click to focus. >>> > >>> > I really like e17, but the conflicts with Eclipse focusing is getting >>> > harder to >>> > accept. I haven't been able to fully list steps to reproduce yet, but >>> > some of >>> > the symptoms I have are as follows: >>> > >>> > 1.) Edit window looses focus (greyed out). If the text buffer has >>> > changed it >>> > won't allow me to save. File context "Save All" is also disallowed >>> > even though >>> > the buffer shows change. To save the file I have to close the tab for >>> > the file, >>> > which will then prompt me to save the file. I then have to dig through my >>> > project to reopen the file. >>> > >>> > 2.) Select text in an editor for a file, find and Replace window (I >>> > have mapped >>> > to CTRL+F) when invoked will appear but the editor has lost focus so >>> > the "Find" >>> > button will be greyed out until the editor window is selected and the >>> > Find & >>> > Replace window is reselected. >>> > >>> > 3.) When debugging, the thread stack doesn't always allow switching a >>> > thread >>> > (seems to ignore the click). >>> > >>> > On a side note, Mono (debugger) also will crash when hovering over a >>> > variable in >>> > the watch window. A tooltip usually displays extended values of the >>> > variable >>> > (like a full string). >>> > >>> > Not sure what else I can do to help, but I will try to see if I can >>> > get the >>> > issue to be reproducible. >>> >>> >>> For the record, I do experience similar problems, which disapear when I >>> switch to Gnome, so it really seems to be a window manager problem. The >>> point 1) above is really annoying for me. >>> >>> I use E17 from trunk with easy_e17.sh script on a Debian Sid machine, >>> with an Eclipse 3.7.1 and a Java 7 (openJDK) JVM. >>> >>> I don't know how I could help solving these issues, but if I can help, I >>> will be glad to. >> >> i'm going to give something very non-positive here now. look for mentions of >> the word java in e17's src. and then look for the swear words right near it. >> here is the reality of things: >> >> java's awt is built to emulate a windows style focus and behavior world. >> having read some of its x11 layer code, it looks like it's written by some >> junior programmer with little to no idea about x11. it tries make a x11+wm >> world appear like the windows world. reality is that this is nigh impossible. >> and doing so to work across wm's needs high levewls of skill, knowledge, >> experience and needs care and effort. java has code (i've read it before) >> SPECIFICALLY to detect a range of window managers and work around them, do >> weird and wonderful things in each situation, and try all sorts of tricks to >> get >> things to happen that it wants. >> >> fact is that java doesn't respect icccm/netwm/x11 correctly and does hacks to >> get its "write once, run anywhere" to work. i gave up working around java a >> long time ago. i'm down to not really caring anymore as i've sunk 100's of >> hours of trying to find "bugs" in e only to find it's java being a "dick". i >> have little patience or time to bother anymore. >> >> patches (that don't totally screw e17's src) accepted. :) >> > > https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=59639 > > seems like a eclipse bug with focus-window-under-mouse, should work > when setting e's window focus to click-to-focus. I'm also currently > not in the mood to fix this. But maybe I'll look after it some day. > I meant 'work around this'... I guess a 'focus mode toggle' button gadget would be the best solution
> Regards, > Hannes > >> -- >> ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- >> The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. >> Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. >> Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 >> _______________________________________________ >> enlightenment-users mailing list >> enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 _______________________________________________ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
