On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 09:12:10 -0600 Esteban Monge <esteban.franci...@gmail.com> said:
> 2013/11/25 Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> > > > On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 15:23:35 +0800 P Purkayastha <ppu...@gmail.com> said: > > > > > On 11/25/2013 02:03 PM, Cedric BAIL wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 6:31 AM, Esteban Monge > > > > <esteban.franci...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> I am trying E18, but I noted big performance problems between E17 and > > E18. > > > >> > > > >> My computer is a AMD E-350 with 2GB of RAM. I installed Debian Sid > > 64bits. > > > >> > > > >> When I play flash based games the computer slows down a lot, the same > > > >> situation with play youtube videos with Flash. > > > >> > > > >> In other thread I read that probably Java had the same problem. > > > >> > > > >> I made test with top between e17 and e18, with e17 I never saw the > > process > > > >> on top, but with e18 is too frecuent, the more heavy process are > > Iceweasel > > > >> and E18 > > > >> > > > >> How can I help to send you a report? I couldn't see any E18 related > > log. > > > > > > > > The main difference between e17 and e18, is that e18 is always a > > > > composite manager. From what you describe it seems that you are maybe > > > > using the software backend. Check Settins/Composite that you are using > > > > an OpenGL backend (will use your main CPU less) and that you also > > > > don't composite full screen window. I hope that solve your problem. > > > > > > > > > > IIRC, there is no option to change the engine in Settings/Composite in > > > e18. You need to instead open the elementary config and change the > > > engine to OpenGL there. > > > > there is definitely 100% an option to change engine. under rendering. > > > > > When I first installed and used e18 it used software compositing by > > > default, and I found the elm config option only after several weeks. I > > > realized something was not right when I found it a bit odd that > > > scrolling in the webpages were slightly slow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Shape the Mobile Experience: Free Subscription > > > Software experts and developers: Be at the forefront of tech innovation. > > > Intel(R) Software Adrenaline delivers strategic insight and game-changing > > > conversations that shape the rapidly evolving mobile landscape. 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I usually don't buy fast and expensive computers, just > because, I think that one cheap and efficient laptop can do it!!! > > If I don't want composite I need return back to E17? have you tries software compositing? i don't know why it's so slow for you. maybe your driver is doing a software fallback and evas can't tell. evas has a blacklist for gl drivers it knows are software rendered so it will just refuse to start up on these - but maybe yours is undetected - check glxinfo for vendor and renderer like: OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation OpenGL renderer string: GeForce GTS 450/PCIe/SSE2 maybe your gpu is hw rendering and it is just so insanely poor/bad you'd be better off with software. fyi i use sw compositing on a 600mhz pentium-m next to me and it works fine. at 600mhz. on something far more ancient and slow than your box. sure - its not "silky smooth" but it's fast enough. you're getting compositing in e. this is not up for negotiation. there are a host of very good reasons for it. we just can't move on without. doing it this way cuts the cost of compositing significantly and without doing this we cant move to wayland. also it gets rid of a shot of bugs people report when composting is off (eg the theme assumes compositing and when off you get shaped display and this leads to all sorts of uglies that make some things unusable). so "compositing always on" does these things; 1. simplifies our code so we don't have 2 paths to worry about 2. simplification allows us to actually maintain and develop things rather than invest huge resources into testing/coding for 2 paths for what is an ever decreasing user base 3. allows us to move on to supporting wayland (without compositing, we can't) 4. makes theme work easier as you can assume alpha channels work right 5. gets rid of artifact bugs created by not having alpha channels now what is interesting is you claim it's gl under the compositor settings under engine, but it's slow. see above for that. software rendering will also cause e to rise up in cpu usage a fair bit. given current x infra we are unfortunately forced to copy pixels from the pixmap back client-side and then render, then upload again. we don't have a zero-copy path available. it might also be that your gpu just can't cope with what evas is throwing at it. it isn't that much actually. it shouldn't be that bad. if you are able to run e on a commandline where you can set environment vars, you can collect some debug from the gl enigne that can indicate how much geometry etc. we are throwing at the gpu each frame. -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Shape the Mobile Experience: Free Subscription Software experts and developers: Be at the forefront of tech innovation. 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