On 6/1/02 11:08 PM, "Dan Frakes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> on 5/31/02 10:29 PM, Paul Berkowitz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Because the QuickFilter looks only in the displayed columns of the
>> window displayed, not in the contents or source of every message as
>> Advanced Find dos. That's what males it QUICK, if you want to know.
> 
> Understood -- but when the QuickFilter says "To contains..." that implies
> that the email address is one of the fields that is searched. After all,
> while it is possible to have a recipient with an email address but no name
> listed, it's not possible to have a name but no email... Same goes for the
> standard Find dialog.
> 
> I'm not asking for a search of the contents or the source... that's what the
> Advanced find is for. I'm asking for a search of "To" or "From."
> 
> 
>> So, no, it's no different in Entourage X. It's not a bug: that's how
>> it works.
> 
> I guess I would disagree with you on this one; I consider a "To contains..."
> filter that doesn't check the recipient's email address to be buggy ;)
> 
> 
>> Now that you, what is so hard about using Advanced Find if
>> you want to look for email addresses?
> 
> Because I want to use a QuickFilter? ;)
> 
> But in all seriousness, the implication of the QuickFilter is that you can
> quickly search for a message to/from a certain address. Not checking the
> email address for such a filter is illogical and dramatically reduces the
> utility of the QuickFilter.
> 
> Advanced Find is *extremely* useful... but for such a simple search, it
> takes more steps, involves more windows, etc. In short, it's not a
> QuickFilter. I think this is pretty clear, and a fair criticism of the
> current functionality of the QuickFilter -- and judging by the number of
> people who emailed me off-list to respond to my question, I'm not the only
> one who considers it a shortcoming.
> 
 But it works by LOOKING IN THE COLUMNS! Not the database. And there's no
room in the From column for both Name and Email Address. So, yes, the little
box in the top right-hand corner COULD be made to look for email address
too. But in order to do so it would HAVE to look in the message source (the
headers) because the columns don't have the email address.  So, yes, it
could do that. But then it wouldn't be so quick. It would be exactly like
the Advanced Find because - guess what - that's exactly what the Advanced
Find does.

So it should look for the email address, but it should also be as quick as
it is now. In order to do that, they would have to fit the email address as
well as the name into the From column. THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM.  It would
squeeze out everything else. They can't always do everything. If they put
name and email address in the From column, there would hardly be room for
more than a word or so in the Subject column. Do you really think that would
be better? I don't think most people would agree with you. Cut out Category
column? A lot more people would be upset than the number of people like you
who just don't feel like using Advanced Find. Research they did when
developing the app indicated that far, far more people wanted the display
name there rather than the email address. So that's what's there, and that's
why the email address isn't there, and that's why the QuickFilter can't
search email addresses.

They introduced the QuickFilter because people used to complain that the
regular and Advanced Find were too slow. It's an "extra". If it were
redesigned so that it could find email address even though it's not in the
column, it would go at the speed of Advanced Find, and more people would
complain about that, now that they're used to the present speed of the
QuickFilter.

Maybe when everyone has 23-inch Cinema Displays there will be room for both
both name and email address in the From column. Until then, or some other
solution presents itself, just press option-command-F and get on with it.
It works extremely well.

If you happen to know a method by which the QuickFilter could be as fast as
it is now without looking in the headers and without looking in the columns,
I'm sure the developers would be very interested.

-- 
Paul Berkowitz


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