On 4/15/07, Jesse Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, it's really cool, and there are some very good ideas. I like the > > tag system, though you are not showing what happens when clicking on > > one of those "smart folders". > > It would be similar to what you see with the Shelf Tag Overlay, > except the contents would be, say, Person objects when you click on > the People Tag Overlay, etc. But yes, I do need to make > representations of those.
Well, we should decide how that works -- I mean, if I click on a smart folder icon, we could decide to have it shown: - on the desktop, replacing the current one ? - in a window, eg kinda like a filemanager would do ? - in an overlay shelf ? Actually it seems that in your current design you completely get rid of windows ? > > I kinda like the way projects are shown, although I'm less convainced > > by the whole overlay system. I think it would be better to have no > > project management overlay, > > Where would all the Projects live? They're not tagged, so it doesn't > make sense to have them in a tag list. I'm open to other suggestions > for how to do Project management, though. I do not see a reason why "types" (projects,objects..) would be different than "tags" -- for me they are equivalent. One unrelated thing actually, we could have hierarchical tagging, as in Aperture (you can simply define tag hierarchy, which means that if you apply a tag that has children, all the children tags will be also applied). > > and just keep the shelf overlay (possibly > > though you could create more than one shelf). On the projects > > themselves, we could get rid of the document toolbar on the right. > > Where do you want minimized active documents to go? Back to the > Project Overlay? (I would actually be fine with that -- we could > remove the distinction between closed and minimized documents). why not putting them into the "project management toolbar" on the bottom ? > > The right-corner project icon should be a smart folder as well, no ? > > Well, in essence it is, but it's not "smart" in that you're doing no > searching or tagging. Clicking that icon simply shows you all the > Projects on your system. Er.. in what is it different then smart folder ? I mean, that's exactly what a smart folder do, no ? > Some other notes not in my last email: > > This is based almost exactly on Brian's write-up here: http:// > brian.muhumuza.googlepages.com/working_with_objects.html > I stole the Project Overlay system from him. > > I am up for something completely different than what I made, > particularly if it's less mentally complex. The dual Tag/Project > overlay system can become very, very messy quickly (consider that you > might be viewing a Project, a Project Overlay, and a Tag Overlay all > at once). > > I had also considered unifying Tags and Projects (so that every > Project was just the result of tag1+tag2+...+tagN), but that doesn't > really work either (as per the email called 'Tags, Projects and > Objects' that I sent earlier). It may be that Tags and Projects are > just not compatible, and we have to have one or the other. Well, for one thing I believe the current mockup shows that the proposed architecture is way too complex... which is why I think we could get rid of project overlay, just keep the shelves system and that's it. I also believe that tags and projects could be unified -- or more exactly, that tags and types should be unified, project beeing simply one particular type. Actually.. perhaps not unified in that types == tags, but in that the "smart folders" can work on both types and tags (and other meta data too I guess, like the date, etc.) > I'm open to whatever though, so throw some ideas my way. I'd rather > do hundreds of mockups and get us at a shared vision, than not do any > mockups and have everyone working blindly. Yes. Frankly having mockups are extremely helpful, and before committing to a particular vision/idea having a mockup to discuss the idea is ideal ! :-) -- Nicolas Roard "La perfection, ce n'est pas quand il n'y a plus rien à ajouter, c'est quand il n'y a plus rien à enlever." -- Antoine de St-Exupéry _______________________________________________ Etoile-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/etoile-discuss
