On 4/17/07, Stefan Urbanek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Citát Quentin Mathé <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Le 16 avr. 07 ŕ 18:05, Jesse Ross a écrit :
>
<snip>
> - Persons/Contacts related to this element
>
See below...
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>
> All document-type specific metadatas like Authors, Copyright,
> Summary, Languages, Company and more for a text document. EXIF and
> IPTC for pictures. Ditto with sounds, videos.
>
> We should probably make some metadatas like Authors, Copyright
> available for any elements.
I had an idea this week-end when I was importing photos of my friends from
my
camera to iPhoto. I want to be able to find a photo with a friend through
spotlight. "Where is the photo of me and Vlado?" Currently I have only one
option: describe the persons in the photo comments. People have their real
names, they have nicknames and in Slovak language many variants of a name
could
exist, depending on relationship to a person or on subjective feel of a
situation (name can have many forms, such as official, familial, "cute",
"in
anger",...). To be able to search persons in my pictures, I would have to
either put all the name variants in the comments or to use only one name
for
each person. Neither is good, as many people have the same name or you
want to
have a comment according to the scene.
Similar with other files, there are, as mentioned: "Authors, contacts,
related
persons " ...
Instead of putting names in comments or any kind of textual metadata, why
not
directly linking the files with the persons or companies? How?
1. Open photo management application
2. select files with people in there
3. find the people in your address book
4. drag files to the photos (*)
(*) opposite dragging would mean, that you want to send those pictures to
the
selected contacts
Your contacts can have any name, any number of names and they can change
name,
you still will have a connection.
Problem? Non-portable to other machine or even other user on the same
machine.
However, looks like there is price you have to pay when you want as
connected
objects in your environment as possible. Cost of it is necessity of having
mechanism of importing and exporting objects into the environment and out
of
the environment. Unfortunately, because of the state of other
environments,
where you just move unconnected files as you like, the price is too high,
I
think :-/ Only if the import-export mechanism was as transparent as
possible to
the user...
Stefan Urbanek
p.s.: On the other hand ... compare:
Cell, organelles, cell membrane and protein channels for doing cell
import-export :-)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_(biology)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_membrane
There are many examples from nature where you do not have freely passing
objects
in and out of systems with boundaries.
Inside an environment, object are connected. In Etoile, they can reference
each
other, in a cell we say that objects are linked when there are
interactions
between them. What we need is a mechanism of connecting objects together
and
being able to retain those connections or at least hints to the
connections
when the objects are being exported from the environment...
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do you mean something like this? (look at the second section)
http://brian.muhumuza.googlepages.com/working_with_objects.html
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