I doubt "yank and crush" will happen again. Tesla is too much of a threat for
anyone not to want to keep their EV program active, even if it's only a
contingency plan. My bigger fear would be Toyota sucking market share and
investment away from EV's when they start shipments of their Fool Cell car.
Even then, though, the significant disadvantages of hydrogen infrastructure
(and fuel cells in general) should keep competition to a minimum.
-Ben
On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:43 PM, Bruce EVangel Parmenter <bruce...@operamail.com>
wrote:
> I am glad Jamie K posted their experiences. It brings clarity to all
> this advertising. And by advertising I mean the Automaker or a
> dealership paid/pushed for a piece like this to be produced and
> broadcasted to the news media outlets.
>
> So, if automakers basically have their quota filled for the required
> period (they either sold enough EVs, or a multiple of pih, or bought
> carbon credits), why are they acting like they are still in the game?
>
> My guess is it is for show, so that CARB and the boards in other states
> do not see them as only making a token effort when we all know that is
> what it really is: just enough effort to still be able to sell the more
> profitable ice models. And or are they bidding their time until the next
> administration is voted in ...
>
> The plugin community of both EVs and pih, has seen a huge change in
> several areas. The growing:
> -populations of those plugins on public roads (and not just leases, but
> the pubic can actually buy them)
> -infrastructure of public EVSE/charge-points of all levels/types
> -and advertisements of plugins (in news item, TV ad, and other forms),
> making public awareness, and society's acceptance increase
> (+more)
>
> Despite my fears of something unforeseen on the horizon the automakers
> will pull (like the yank and crush of the late 1990's/2000s), the above
> offsets that with joy ( ... it only took 20+ years to happen, ... but it
> 'is' happening).
>
>
> {brucedp.150m.com}
>
>
>
> -
> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014, at 10:08 AM, Jamie K wrote:
>>
>> Having driven both the Spark and the Leaf, IMO the article overstates
>> the performance advantage of the Spark. They both have more than
>> sufficient acceleration for city driving. Meanwhile the Leaf offers
>> important feature advantages.
>>
>> And Zeke is right, the Spark has a huge distribution DISadvantage.
>> Making the current Spark, sadly, a compliance car. Along with Fiat and
>> Honda.
> -
>
> -
>> On 3/11/14 3:27 PM, Zeke Yewdall wrote:
>>> With a price that is a fraction of the Tesla Model S, the Spark EV has many
>>>> times more potential customers. Basically, the Model S is a toy of the
>>>> wealthy while the Spark EV is clearly built for the masses.
>>>>
>>>> When it comes to the direct competition, the Spark EV holds a significant
>>>> performance edge over the Nissan Leaf, Fiat 500 E, Honda Fit EV and Ford
>>>> Focus electric.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, the Leaf and the Tesla hold an enormous advantage over the
>>> Spark.... they're actually available for purchase outside of a few select
>>> states. That's why I see Leaf's all the time, and a few Teslas driving
>>> around, here in Colorado, and have never seen a Spark. If you don't offer
>>> it for sale, it's hard to compete...
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