Sure they might exist but it's not economical to own that much battery for occasional use.
People like that usually have multiple cars. We first must get past the adoption curve. Too much range anxiety among people with no EV experience. ________________________________ From: Peri Hartman via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org> Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack> 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight Isn't that a bit extreme? What about the many people who want to own only one car and normally drive 20 miles a day but once a week or so go out of town - to the mountains, to the beach, to the inlaws... They could rent but might prefer the convenience of having their own vehicle ready to go. Peri ------ Original Message ------ From: "Robert Bruninga via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> To: "Ben Goren" <b...@trumpetpower.com>; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.evdl.org>; "brucedp5" <bruce...@operamail.com> Sent: 06-Mar-15 9:50:03 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack> 700Wh/kg, lighter-weight >It is ludicrous for someone to be paying for a 200 mile battery when >all >she needs is 80. As with everything else, there needs to be a variety. >The smart EV shopper buys the -smallest- battery that meets her daily >need. Paying for a 200 mile battery is like commuting 10 miles a day >and >dropping off the kids in a hummer. > >Bob, WB4APR > >-----Original Message----- >From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Ben Goren via >EV >Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 11:59 AM >To: brucedp5; Electric Vehicle Discussion List >Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BASF sez 1k+mi NiMH EV Pack> 700Wh/kg, >lighter-weight > >On Mar 6, 2015, at 2:19 AM, brucedp5 via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > >> [T]he kind of developments being researched by BASF could very well >>pave >the way to cars that could travel more than 1,000 miles on a battery >pack >the same size as the ones in today's mid-priced electric cars. > >I'm sure we'll never see significant numbers of thousand-mile-range >cars >on the market. That's almost twelve hours at 85 MPH, and over eighteen >hours at 55 MPH. > >What we'd see long before then would be cars with half as much battery. >Never mind the savings in money; the space and weight could be put to >better use. > >Or, if a battery of that much capacity winds up in a vehicle, the >vehicle >will be something like the Hummer: hugely oversized and inefficient, >but >still with a 500-mile range due to twice the batteries. > >It looks like a 200-mile range seems to be the point where "Joe >Sixpack" >stops having crippling amounts of range anxiety (whether justified or >not), and we're transitioning to that being not untypical. Tesla's had >that for a while and all the rumors are about the next vehicles from >various major manufacturers meeting that spec. > >I'd expect most cars to eventually settle on a 250 - 350 mile range, no >matter what happens to battery capacity. There might be some premium >models with a 500+ mile range for bragging / non-stop cross-country >touring (65 MPH * 8 hours = 520 miles), but never a 1000 mile range. > >b& >-------------- next part -------------- >A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >Name: signature.asc >Type: application/pgp-signature >Size: 801 bytes >Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail >URL: ><http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20150306/7fb6c0 >d0/attachment.pgp> >_______________________________________________ >UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA >(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) >_______________________________________________ >UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA >(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20150306/077cfc64/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
