Do you have a source for that? That doesn't match this EPA report: https://www3.epa.gov/climatechange/ghgemissions/gases/co2.html
It says that electricity generation (all fuel sources) make up 37% of all CO2 and transportation makes up 31%. The other major sources were industry at 15% and household use at 10%. Mike On May 13, 2016 7:49:38 PM MDT, dovepa via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > >I don't see a need to eliminate the internal combustion engine. Most of >the CO2 comes from burning coal. According to the EPA only 14% comes >from transportation. All forms of transportation together road, rail, >air and marine. > >Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone >-------- Original message --------From: Peri Hartman via EV ><ev@lists.evdl.org> Date: 5/13/16 4:13 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Mike Beem ><beemik...@gmail.com>, EVDL Administrator <evp...@drmm.net>, Electric >Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org> Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: >Prof. Clare Grey defending her LiO2 (fluffy > carbon) battery paper >The range problem definitely does exist. How are you going to get rid >of ICE vehicles for long range travel if you can only go 100 miles or >so >per charge? Even 200 miles. > >This has nothing to do with the vehicle you might use for everyday >commuting and errands. Yes, 100 miles is almost always plenty for >that. > And, yes, you can rent something if you want to go long range. > >But we're talking about getting ICE vehicles off the road. That long >range vehicle needs to go 300-400 miles on a charge to be practical. >Some have to be built and there needs to be high wattage charging >stations along the interstates and major highways. And, another >factor, >if only a small percentage are built, economy of scale won't work and >they will be quite expensive. > >Peri > >------ Original Message ------ >From: "Mike Beem via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> >To: "EVDL Administrator" <evp...@drmm.net>; "Electric Vehicle >Discussion >List" <ev@lists.evdl.org> >Sent: 13-May-16 2:06:31 PM >Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Prof. Clare Grey defending her LiO2 (fluffy >carbon) battery paper > >>> They are trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist. >> >>>Most of us on the EVDL have been saying this for years -- that 100 >>>miles of >>range is plenty for almost anyone. >> >>Well stated, both of you! I definitely am ready for that 100 mile >>range, >>having over the years never had more than my current 40 mile range >>pack. >>However, it still does carry me for more than 95% of the miles I drive > >>most >>months. I do have a 3/4 ton diesel pick up truck for pulling my dump >>trailer, and hauling any any loads too heavy, large or messy for the >EV >>Escort, but with its roof rack I have carried ladders, lumber etc. for > >>much >>of what I do; and the truck generally gets driven less than 500 mile >>per >>year, so its contribution to ICE pollution is as minimal as I can make > >>it. >>Having now sold off or given away all of my remaining EV projects, I >>know >>that I am probably driving my last home made EV, but it still has 5 >1/2 >>years to go to finish my experiment=can I drive a conversion EV on one >>lithium pack with a total investment of $10000 for 10 years? (not >>including >>tires or brakes). >>Time will tell, but so far, I have seen no degradation in range or >>power. >>Michael B >> >>On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 1:45 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV < >>ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: >> >>> On 13 May 2016 at 6:31, dovepa via EV wrote: >>> >>> > They are trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist. >>> >>> Most of us on the EVDL have been saying this for years -- that 100 >>>miles of >>> range is plenty for almost anyone. >>> >>> It's true, but outside of EV hobbyists, hardly anyone believes >it. >>>The >>> public perception is that they need range close to what they get on >a >>> tankful of gasoline now. >>> >>> We know that "range anxiety" is a myth. But "journalists" keep >>>hammering >>> at >>> it, and the public buys it. So to them, it's real. >>> >>> We can educate these folks until we drop from exhaustion and it >won't >>> change >>> more than a couple of their minds. We can even have them track >>>their >>> weekly mileage. It makes no difference. >>> >>> Vehicle buyers demand long range, just in case they ever need it. >>>It's the >>> same attitude that makes people buy huge pickup trucks and drive >>>their >>> clunky, awkward 18-mpg beasts year in and year out, even if they >only >>>haul >>> something big once a year (or less). >>> >>> Perception is reality. It doesn't pay to fight it. What does pay >is >>> asking >>> people who actually buy vehicles what they need, listening to them, > >>>and >>> then >>> building and offering for sale an EV that meets those perceived >>> requirements >>> and needs, whether they're real needs or not. >>> >>> David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA >>> EVDL Administrator >>> >>> = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >>> EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ >>> = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >>> Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not >>> reach me. 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