I don't know about his interior lights, but my neighbor has several lights
in his carport that are on 24 hours per day.

On Jul 27, 2018 10:58 AM, "Robert Bruninga via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org>
wrote:

> To make the math work, I should have said, "the average house with
> teenagers leaving all the lights on for 5 hours a day".  [50 lights times
> 60W saved times 5 hours a day = 40 miles daily EV charging]
>
> I stand by my numbers when corrected to a house that leaves most of their
> lights on all evening and assuming averqaeg 75 Watt incandescent bulbs
> originally..
>
> The average house with compulsive behaviors who turn off every unused
> light will be 10% of this as Matt noted...  But he equally exaggerated
> errors.
> .
> On Jul 25, 2018, at 1:08 PM, Matt Awesome via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org>
> wrote:
>
> >> Remember this factoid.
> >> Swapping out the average American home from Incandescent bulbs to
> >> LEDs saves the same amount of power needed to charge an EV the
> >> American 40 mile average per day forever.
> >
> > Plainly, no, it won't.
> >
> >> 50 bulbs saving an average 60 watts each for 5 hours a day is 15 kWh.
> > Who the hell leaves 50 lightbulbs on in their house for 5 hours a day?
> > I don't even think I have 50 lightbulbs in my house, let alone leave
> > them all on 5 hours a day.
> >
> > LEDs aren't free, so, there's not 60watts savings from a 60w bulb.
>
> I assumed an average 75W equivalent bulb (saving 60W) when going to a 9W
> LED.
> And around here, 60W equivalents are about $1 each (probably subsidized by
> the utility).
>
> > How many Kwh does an average US household consume in a day?:  ...
> > That's 27kwh/day.
> >
> > What percentage of an electrical bill is comprised of lighting?: ...
> > Source 3: - 9%.
> > Source 4:  - 6%.
> >
> > The split [might depend] on whether heat is made through gas or
> electricity.
> > So, we could say 27kwh/day of which lighting is 6% or 15kwh/day of
> > which lighting is 9% to at least be in the right ballpark (to arrive at
> this:)
> > - 27kwh*6% = 1.62kwh/day.
> > - 15kwh*9% = 1.35kwh/day.
> >
> > You're claiming 10x that amount in *savings* from switching to LED, ...
>
> Yes, I should have said in some homes who leave every light on all
> evening...
>
> >> Charging an EV at 1.5kw for 10 hours a day is 15 kWh.
> >
> > Since it's not the 1970s, the average household has at least 2
> > vehicles, more when there's teenagers/college kids.
>
> I said for one EV.  I didn't say for every car a household could own.
>
> > Add in that LEDs aren't free, you're off by a factor of 25x.
>
> I included their 9W when subtracted from an incandescent 75W to arrive at
> 60W savings per bulb.
> And around here they only cost $1 each for a 60W LED.
>
> > It would be more accurate to say that by switching from incandescents
> > to LEDs, you could expect to save enough energy to cover 4% of your
> > electric vehicle use. A pretty banal, unsensational, non-headlight
> > grabbing rhetoric for sure, but at least an accurate one.
>
> I stand by my numbers when corrected to a house that leaves most of their
> lights on all evening.
>
> Bob, WB4APR
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