The Stella is an awesome example of what can be done. Aside from what Lee says, which I think is one area of resistance, another big problem is need for a variety of uses.

What I mean is I (or you or the huddling masses...) want something that works for a 15 mile solo commute, works to take the family out to dinner, works to go skiing (hiking, fishing, hunting, ...) for the day, and works to go out of town for the weekend. I think the Stella might be able to do the first two, for a large percentage of people. The latter two? I doubt it.

Now, for going out of town, it wouldn't be too hard to make arrangements to easily pick up a rental. The other case gets harder. You have a lot of elevation gain, meaning you'll need a pretty hefty battery since solar isn't going to be anywhere near adequate. That means the car gets super heavy - like a Tesla - and now the benefits of the Stella are impossible. This usage, too, could be handled by a rental. But I doubt most people are willing add two hours to an already long day in order to use a rental. On top of that, most rental companies don't permit you to drive on unpaved roads.

If we, eventually, have autonomous vehicles, perhaps you'll be able to own a car for your special purpose activities and fetch one for your daily usage. Then, Stella-like vehicles become a real option, I think.

Peri

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From: "Lee Hart via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org>
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Sent: 21-Oct-18 2:56:18 PM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: The physics of slapping solar panels on cars

Larry Gales via EV wrote:
When I look at the Stella Lux and Stella Vie, I get very different results from the negative views of solar powered cars. I start with the assumption that the Dutch students who have won most of the solar car records are not
actually lying.

The problem is that most people assume that EVs must be exactly like ICEs. Typical ICEs today weigh a ton or more, and have the aerodynamics of a brick. All those edgy lines, huge grilles, big fat tires, and rough bottom mean it takes lot of horsepower to drag it down the road.

The automakers are building EVs the same way. Big, heavy, poor aerodynamics.

But there are other ways to do it. Race cars and airplanes are much lighter, and have aerodynamics based on performance rather than styling. Amory Lovins has been championing the "hypercar" concept for decades. The basic idea is that if you halve the weight, and cut the aerodynamic losses in half, it takes 1/4th as much energy to push it down the road. Yet it can be just as strong and safe, by using modern materials and construction techniques.

EVs like Stella Lux and Stella Vie demonstrate how successful this strategy can be. When you have a 4-passenger car that weighs 826 lbs and 1/3 the aerodynamic losses, solar power becomes a viable way to power it!

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