On 11 Jan 2022 at 15:53, John Lussmyer via EV wrote: > Which is where the rumored Model 2 comes in.
How fast do you think they can get it to market? The competition isn't sitting there waiting for them, and Tesla doesn't have a great record of meeting their own development schedules. The EU automakers are (like all of them) pushing high-profit SUVs. It's working to some extent, despite how unsuited SUVs are to EU cities. EU mid- size SUV segment sales are up more than the overall vehicle market. But then, so are A-segment (city car) sales. An EU recession could also upend that trend pretty quickly. At the moment A, B, and C segment cars still account for 51% of EU vehicle sales overall. VW is crowing about selling 46,079 ID4 EVs in 2021 (through November), but what they don't say quite as loudly is that in the same period they sold 64,492 ID3s (C-segment) - 40% more. Meanwhile Renault is doing nicely in A and B segment EVs - over 19,000 A- segment Dacia Springs despite extremely limited availability until midyear, with orders for at least 20,000 more. They also moved 62,000 B-segment Zoes. So right there you're talking about over 145,000 EVs in the A, B, and C segments for 2021, and I'm not even counting VW E-Ups and Peugeot E208s. But so far Tesla has nothing in those segments. I'm not saying that Tesla builds bad EVs. Clearly they don't. What I'm saying is that they build EVs for the USA, and the future of EVs is in Europe, not here. They need to get on the stick. David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Celebrity: a person known for his well-knownness. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org