Kory Heath wrote: > On Oct 30, 2008, at 3:58 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: > >> Of course the point is that you're not the same "you" >> from moment to moment in the sense of strict identity of information >> down to the >> molecular level, or even the neuron level. >> > > > I agree, but that doesn't change the point I was trying to make. If > the collection of molecules that comes out the other end of the > teleporter is not identical to me, but it's as much like me as any > normal future collection of molecules that I change into moment-by- > moment, then I believe that my identity "completely survived" the > teleportation. (In the same sense that I "completely survive" an > average day of my normal life.) If the collection of molecules that > comes out the other end of the teleporter is a puddle of goo, I > believe that my identity completely failed to survive the teleportation. > > My point is that "completely survived" and "completely failed to > survive" cannot be the only two possible cases. If it was, we'd be > left with the absurd conclusion that there's a single molecule of > difference between cases in which I completely survive and cases in > which I completely fail to survive. > > My further point was that this has a bearing on probability when > creating multiple copies. If I make two copies of myself A and B, and > A is an identical copy (or close enough, as above) while B is one of > those weird intermediate cases, I must believe that subjectively I'm > more likely to find myself at A. Otherwise, we'd again be left with > the absurd conclusion that there's a molecule of difference between > the cases when I fully survive both copyings, and the ones where I > completely fail to survive the B copying and therefore am certain to > find myself at A. > > -- Kory > I think this problem is misconceived as being about probability of survival. I don't think there's some normalized measure that adds up to one. Rather we should look at it as how much of "you" survives. If it's a bad copy or mostly a copy of someone else then the fraction of "you" that survives is small. It's not a probability of you surviving. The mistake is in reifying "my identity". Your identity is not a thing; it's a fuzzy, ill defined set of memories and dispositions that are tied together by being associated with a certain physical structure.
If it's a copy that thinks it's you and has most of your memories and dispositions then most of you survived. From this standpoint most of me as a five-year old boy did not survive - we only say so conventionally because of the causal, physical connection I have with that five-year old boy. Brent Meeker The person I was when I was 3 years old is dead. He died because too much new information was added to his brain. -- Saibal Mitra --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---