On 7/17/2011 10:38 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 8:51 AM, benjayk
<benjamin.jaku...@googlemail.com
<mailto:benjamin.jaku...@googlemail.com>> wrote:
> But with comp, you are using "1+1=2", and much more, to tackle the
> subjective truth of a universal number thinking about "1+1=2".
So, if
> you reject arithmetical truth, comp makes no much sense.
I didn't write I reject arithmetical truth. I reject arithmetical
realism; I
don't think arithmetical truth exists seperately from its
observer. 1+1=2 is
still true, just not independently of us. The reason is that 1+1=2
makes
sense because it is true, and truth is fundamentally linked to a
subject
that intuits what truth is.
This doesn't mean that 1+1=2 is true for me and not true for
somebody else,
but that is necessarily true because I (=consciousness, not ego)
necessarily
am.
My hypothesis is that truth is equal to awareness / consciousness / "I
am-ness" and all kind of expressions of truth are just... well,
expressions
of the truth and not independent of it. 1+1=2 is an expression of
1+1 being
itself as 2.
This hypothesis makes everything mysterious, but this may just be
as it is.
The truth is necessarily mysterious. All explanations are just
expressions
of its mysterious nature, that allow us to look deeper into what
it is, but
never giving an explanation *for* it. It's beyond explanations, seeing
itself through explanations.
Ben,
Would you say that e^*(2 * Pi * i) is exactly equal to 1, rather than
approximately equal to 1?
If you believe that it is, you are believing in the independent
existence of infinitely long numbers e and Pi, numbers which have
never been fully grasped by any human, and potentially never grasped
by any conscious being anywhere (due to their infinite nature).
Jason
That seems to turn on a certain meaning of "grasped". Looking at a
finite decimal representation might be one meaning of "grasp" but it
seems like an artificially impoverished one. "Pi is the ratio of the
length of the circumference to the diameter of a plane circle." is also
a finite representation and one that I find easier to grasp than , say,
10^10^100.
Brent
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