On Sat, May 12, 2012 meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: >I guess I have to draw a diagram > > Determined > | > | > Coerced-------------------------Free > | > | > Random >
Thanks but as I said I already knew that orthogonal means at right angles, but what does "free" mean, free to do what? It means the ability to do what you want to do. So if you're free you did what you did for a reason and your desire was that reason. What caused you to have that particular desire (reason) rather than another? The short answer is I don't know. Perhaps it was your heredity or perhaps it was your environment, in either case it would be deterministic; but maybe there was no reason at all for you to have that particular desire, and then it would be random. One thing I do know, it was cause for a reason or it was not caused for a reason. > that points in all quadrants of the above diagram are possible. > No they are not because you have not defined what the "coerced-free" axes is, or at least you have not done so in a way that is not riddled with self contradictions. And you have most certainly not demonstrated how it, or anything else for that matter, could be independent (or orthogonal if you want to be pompous) of both determinism and randomness. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
