On 16 Aug 2012, at 16:52, Roger wrote:
Hi Bruno Marchal
That's Cosmic Clockmaker argument.
I don't think so. If I am machine, neither God, nor physical reality,
nor consciousness, nor any Protagorean virtue, can be emulated
genuinely on a computer. Computer lived in the arithmetical reality,
which is *far* bigger than what can be Turing emulated. Computers can
only scratch the surface of reality, but can have also big insight and
can propose big theories, and then they can confront it to the
observable facts.
God created the
universe and let it just run by istself with no intervention.
With comp it is arguable that God intervene all the time, and you can
even awaken it in yourself. God has three facets: the outer god
(Plotinus ONE) which is not definable by the machine. Arithmetical
truth can play that role, for technical reasons which I sketch in the
Plotinus paper. The Middle God, which is Plato Noùs, or intelligible
(by God) realm. This can be shown to be already far bigger than God.
Indeed, even with God as an oracle, the Noùs remains undecidable. Then
the inner God, or Universal Soul. This one is personnally accessible,
through mystical experience or just meditating on who you are, or by
using diverse technic (usually painful).
But where or how did God come up with a blueprint ?
Explain what you mean, please. I don't understand the question.
Bruno
Roger , rclo...@verizon.net
8/16/2012
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so
everything could function."
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On 14 Aug 2012, at 20:28, meekerdb wrote:
On 8/14/2012 10:42 AM, Roger wrote:
Hi meekerdb
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so
everything could function."
And I'd say why can't everything just function by itself? If "God"
is just a placeholder word for "whatever it is that makes things
work" it doesn't add much.
No, but it is shorter.
Bruno
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