Hi Platonist Guitar Cowboy My objection to political correctness is based on freedom of speech and particularly those who would forbid debate or criticism because the topic or subject is "politically incorrect."
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 9/10/2012 Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so that everything could function." ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Platonist Guitar Cowboy Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-09-09, 09:33:41 Subject: Re: Re: Re: Racism ? How's that implied ? I don't see sins, I merely prefer "wrongs" as in: not appropriate to circumstance, on which there is never a final ruling. Stauffenberg tried to murder Hitler; had he succeeded, would that be an example of "wrong" or "heroism" or some mixed bag, yet again? As a cowboy, I meet both liberal and conservative, and I almost don't care anymore. The liberals generally lack a sense of accounting/economic limits, or a precise program to re-frame these to minimize shocks to transition towards something better, without endangering the economic livelihoods of millions of people, and conservatives rarely exhibit compassion/empathy or a willingness to dream of something better. Any conception of political correctness is rooted in discrimination between outside, prohibited behavior, and inside, politically correct behavior. The kind of thinking that persuades itself that it can clearly distinguish between right and wrong, sins and good, in a total, universal sense, is either performing a guru or... So in a sense, Roger, your enlightened perspective here IS the kind of thinking that conjures up/creates the political correctness problem it attacks. ? On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote: Hi Craig Weinberg ? I really don't know much about the John Birch Society, but googling it up, find that it was once falsely accused of being racist, no doubt due to over-zealous liberal hatred of conservatism. ? The KKK was very racist. As far as I know it's mostly dead. Good. ? A greater sin, IMHO is political correctness, supported by Al-qaeda, which is sending America down the toilet. If you don't see that, no amount of explaining on my part will enlighten you. ? ? Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 9/9/2012 Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so that everything could function." ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Craig Weinberg Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-09-08, 13:30:43 Subject: Re: Re: Racism ? How's that implied ? On Saturday, September 8, 2012 9:34:45 AM UTC-4, rclough wrote: ?ecause ironically and paradoxically they see the world in terms of race. Conservatives attempt to live by facts. I never saw racism in what what I wrote until you brought the subject up. Are you familiar with the KKK? The John Birch Society? Would you call those liberal organizations? I don't want to get into a political flame war, but just so you know, liberals do not see the world in terms of race, but they are prejudiced against conservatives because they see them as people who are unaware of their own ignorance of the facts and uncaring of the consequences of that ignorance. Of course that may not be the case, but any of the hundreds of millions of liberals who might read what you have written there will interpret it in precisely that way. Personally, my theory is that people generally imitate or contradict the political orientation of the first strongly political person they are exposed to in their life. Usually a parent or older sibling - if they like them, they see the political world through their eyes, if they dislike them, they seek to prove themselves unlike them. It's really that simple. Very few people research politics methodically and impartially and formulate a set of opinions based on 'facts'. 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