Hi Bruno Marchal
There is perhaps some light at the end of Solipsism's tunnel.
As a preface, Solipsism can be stated thusly: I cannot directly share my
experiences
(such as that I exist), but I can share my descriptions of my experiences
("thus I stub my toe (stubbing it)".
1) You can share descriptions of experiences, which opens the door a
little, although
your description may be distorted or even fiction, each of which
might sometimes be publicly checked.
2) You can share thoughts, if they are clear and rational.
But not affections.
3) If two people have the same experience (ie they both see a bluebird
or the number 4848475) they can publicly check their personal experiences.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
10/11/2012
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen
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From: Bruno Marchal
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Time: 2012-10-10, 12:08:56
Subject: Re: I believe that comp's requirement is one of "as if" rather
than"is"
On 09 Oct 2012, at 18:58, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
> It may be a zombie or not. I can? know.
>
> The same applies to other persons. It may be that the world is made of
> zombie-actors that try to cheat me, but I have an harcoded belief in
> the conventional thing. Maybe it is, because otherwise, I will act
> in strange and self destructive ways. I would act as a paranoic, after
> that, as a psycopath (since they are not humans). That will not be
> good for my success in society. Then, I doubt that I will have any
> surviving descendant that will develop a zombie-solipsist
> epistemology.
>
> However there are people that believe these strange things. Some
> autists do not recognize humans as beings like him. Some psychopaths
> too, in a different way. There is no authistic or psichopathic
> epistemology because the are not functional enough to make societies
> with universities and philosophers. That is the whole point of
> evolutionary epistemology.
If comp leads to solipsism, I will apply for being a plumber.
I don't bet or believe in solipsism.
But you were saying "that a *conscious* robot" can lack a soul. See
the quote just below.
That is what I don't understand.
Bruno
>
>
>
> 2012/10/9 Bruno Marchal :
>>
>> On 09 Oct 2012, at 13:29, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
>>
>>
>> But still after this reasoning, I doubt that the self conscious
>> philosopher robot have the kind of thing, call it a soul, that I
>> have.
>>
>>
>> ?
>>
>> You mean it is a zombie?
>>
>> I can't conceive consciousness without a soul. Even if only the
>> universal
>> one.
>> So I am not sure what you mean by soul.
>>
>> Bruno
>>
>>
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