Hi Telmo Menezes  

Sheldrake, as you might surmise, is totally empirical, 
which is the irrefutable tactic to disprove materialism. 


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Thanks Roger! I'm intrigued and will investigate further when time permits. 


Another more mundane explanation might be related to the effect of "knowing 
that something is possible". I believe there is some research on this effect. 
In sports, for example, when someone breaks a psychological barrier (e.g. 
running a mile under 4 minutes), it's not unusual for other athletes to 
replicate the record soon enough. 


But I'm talking out of my ass, as you Americans say. I'll read for myself. 


I agree with you that too much skepticism can be counterproductive. As Carl 
Sagan put it, there's an ideal mix of skepticism and wonder. 



On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Roger Clough  wrote: 

Hi Telmo Menezes  
  
Sheldrake's been criticized in such a fashion for many of his results 
(there are a huge number of other types of observations) but I simply 
trust that he's not deceiving us. My reason is that materialists are 
untrustworthy themselves because they hate such things.  
Penrose gets similar flack for his remarks on intuition. 
  
You might try lookking at his results: 
  
"Contempt prior to investigation will keep you forever in ignorance." 
  
- Herbert Spencer 
  
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Hi Roger,  


I'm curious about the experimental setup. Could it be that he's just 
misinterpreting a probabilistic distribution? Suppose the amount of time it 
takes people to solve a puzzle follows a normal distribution. As time passes 
and we ride the slope to the mean, we can get the mistaken impression that 
people solving the puzzle are causing more people to solve it. 


I hope I'm wrong by the way! I love weird experimental results. 



On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Roger Clough  wrote: 

Hi  
Sheldrake's morphic resonance is?ased on?bservations such as this: 
repeated operations by people doing the same times crossword puzzle cause  
subsequent solving of the puzzle later in the day?asier. 
This is ridiculed by scientists. 
But IMHO morphic resonance could be understood as modification of random 
behavior  
(on a platonic or Leibnizian shared mental plane) subjected to a lawful 
universe,  
such as is found in natural selection through evolution  

As an explanation, consider this analogy. They've put hidden optical speed 
detectors  
on my neighborhood streets to slow down traffic. If you don't see the  
detectors and speed through, the detectors will flash photo your license  
plate and electronically issue you a speed ticket. Gradually everybody  
tends to slow down to meet the legal speed limit. 

A wild speculation is perhaps quantum mechanics behavior gradually 
adapts to einstein behavior in such a way. 

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