Hi meekerdb  

1) Materialists don't have any dogmas. Just ask one of them. 
2) quanta are not materials. 
3) materialism cannot accept empty space, since it isn't a material. 

[Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 
1/4/2013  
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On 1/3/2013 11:47 PM, Roger Clough wrote: 
> Hi Russell Standish 
> 
> Most scientific publications are based on the 19th century religious cult of 
> materialism, 
> which dogmatically rejects mind and spirit for atheistic purposes (not 
> reasons, there are none). 

Do you have any citations showing where this dogma is written down? 

> 
> It cannot deal with fields at all, 

Ever hear of quantum *field* theory. 

> for example the theory of relativity, since that 
> theory asserts that there is no such thing as space (and yet it works). 

General relativity is a theory of metric space. 

> M does not 
> believe in fields, for they are anathema: immaterial, purely mathematical. 
> So of course monads and morphisms are nonsense to a materialist. 
> He lives in a fantasy world. 

You must be living in some other world to think scientist cannot deal with 
fields - a  
concept they invented. 

Brent 

> 
> 
> [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 
> 1/4/2013 
> "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." - Woody Allen 
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> Time: 2013-01-03, 18:32:37 
> Subject: Re: Is Sheldrake credible ? I personally think so. 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 01:46:20PM -0500, Richard Ruquist wrote: 
>> While you may investigate such things you will be at a loss to publish 
>> them except on the internet. Even the Cornell internet archives 
>> arXiv.com refuses to publish such results or such thinking. The last 
>> person to get such thinking published on arXiv was Nobelist Brian 
>> Josephson almost a decade ago http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0312012. 
>> 
>> Thankfully Peter Gibbs has created a similar list vixra.org where 
>> almost anything rejected by arXiv can be published, for example my 
>> last paper http://vixra.org/pdf/1101.0044v1.pdf 
>> Richard 
> I'm sceptical of Sheldrake's explanation in terms of "morphic fields" 
> (or even monads). It makes no sense. However, the empirical effect he 
> observed may well stand. We should probe such results, test for any 
> methodological flaws, and if they continue to hold up, look for 
> alternative explanations that might work. 
> 
> Of course it is a hard row to hoe. A few years ago, I had some 
> empirical results that literally flew in the face of neutral evolution 
> thoery 
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutral_theory_of_molecular_evolution). I 
> could not get these results published, and got treated by scorn by 
> journal referees. Then after about a year of thought, I worked out the 
> mechanism - in the end it was quite a simple, but nevertheless real 
> effect. This time, the paper was accepted without question. 
> 
> You can see the resulting paper at arXiv:nlin.AO/0404012 
> 
> In spite of thise result having quite profound implications for 
> things like the "molecular clock" idea, AFAIK, nobody has investigated 
> whether anything like this happens in real biology. 
> 
> It does also stand as an example of what is required to publish 
> contra-paradigmatic results. 
> 
> Cheers 
> 
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