On 08 Feb 2013, at 23:34, meekerdb wrote:

On 2/8/2013 8:48 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:

If you talk about God to people not reading this list, they would never come to your meaning, as such your usage is a misuse and leads to confusion.


No, you are wrong on this. All theologians I met have no problem at all

Of course theologians constitute about 0.000001% of the people who have not read this list.

I don't understand.

All what I see is that only (strong) atheists, and fundamentalist have a problem with the idea of being serious in theology. Serious means accepting we are ignorant, and using the terms in the semi-axiomatic way.

By defining God as the ultimate cause, or reason of everything, we can start by being open on all religion, and then we can add this or that second axiom, and with comp we can even interview the machines. Then the machine is almost completely silent on most questions, but in many case can justify why she has to be silent.

I recommend that you read the book on Brian Hines:

http://www.amazon.com/Return-One-Plotinuss-Guide-God-Realization/dp/0977735214

or

even better, the book by Dominic O'Meara on the enneads

http://www.amazon.com/Plotinus-Introduction-Dominic-J-OMeara/dp/0198751478#reader_0198751478

Comp shows that the Church-Turing thesis rehabilitates the Pythagorean version of Neoplatonist theologies.

But theology will remain the worst of all oppressing tool in everyplace where the doubting modest scientific attitude is not allowed in the field.

Literalism, fundamentalism and superstitions in the religions are the result of not being serious in theology.

Bruno






Brent

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