A log pos is someone who snaps their fingers and says, prove it now in front of 
me! Or, all that exists is all we can detect! Most scientists do hold the 
opening for new things discovered, but a fair amount cling to old ideas, like 
the standard model, anyway. Prove it~ Prove it now Dr,. Marchal--other 
universes..now!  Its that sort of attitude. They have a practical point, but 
should practical be the first pass when doing theoretical-hypothetical work? 
Nada. 


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On 08 Sep 2013, at 00:52, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:


 
Yet, there's lots of scientists in public forums like this, who embrace logical 
positivism. I am not saying this is a good thing, but something I have 
experienced. 



Who is logical positivist? I only see people believing in some realities, and 
explaining or trying to explain the appearances and measure with what is.


Postivism is dead. The first positivist condemn the microscope and deny 
microbes. Positivism tries to evacuate metaphysics by using a very strong 
metaphysical assumption. It is self-defeating.


Bruno








 
 
 
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 From: meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net>
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On 9/7/2013 12:40 AM, Alberto G. Corona      wrote:
     
     
That's right. I´m not joking if i say that the thing      that discredited 
philosophers definitively was relativity, quantum      mechanics and their 
realization: the atomic bomb. That is the      event that raised physicalism, a 
branch of logical positivism and      analytical philosophy, and discredited 
any other way of thinking.
    
     If by "physicalism" you      mean the meta- of physics, then it's not 
positivism.  Positivism      hasn't been considered a good meta-physics since 
Mach.  Too many      unobservable things: atoms, photons, quarks, virtual 
particles,...      turned out to make good empirical models.
       
       Brent
       
 
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