Bruno,

It may be that some plants respond to music or at least to sound but to 
claim "some plants love music" is an unwarranted anthropomorphism that 
demonstrates a rather 'New Agey' mentality.

Can you link me to any slow motion videos in which plants move IN SYNCH 
WITH MUSIC? I rather doubt it but I've got an open mind.

Extreme claims demand a modicum of evidence. Of course there is NO evidence 
at all for comp so I won't be surprised if you can't come up with any for 
"plants love music".

Hmmm, isn't that a symptom of what you and Liz claim Trolls do?
:-)

Edgar

On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 4:05:04 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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> On 04 Mar 2014, at 03:11, Kim Jones wrote:
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> On 4 Mar 2014, at 9:48 am, LizR <liz...@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote:
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> Without listening to that (since I'm at work) I am under the impression 
> that "Carmina Burana" is, at the beginning at least, 4 beats to the bar, 
> not 3?
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> Maybe I missed the point. I am not "musical" (except that I like listening 
> to music).
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> You would have to be halfway musical to even pick up on that! Indeed “O 
> Fortuna” (the first song of Orff’s “Carmina Burana”) is cast in 3 beats to 
> the bar at the opening, certainly when it gets fully under way... 
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> I just checked it on the full orchestral score. This is interesting 
> because the “threeness” of this huge opening is not explicit, which is what 
> I was saying earlier. “Beat” in music is simple arithmatic, yet even with 
> such simple resources as ordinal numbers associating with each other 
> (somehow!) to produce these qualia that gives me an aesthetic impression of 
> circularity is already incredibly advanced and difficult to describe. Tis 
> the magic of the numbers.
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> Music IS numbers, but the qualia it induces in my consciousness are 
> something else. If I understand that part of comp correctly. 
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> The qualia are not numbers, indeed. No 1p notion at all can be a 3p 
> notion, like numbers are. But a qualia can be associated to some 1p 
> notions, which arise in some of the self-referential machine's talk,  when 
> distinguishing the proofs and the truth available by that machine, and 
> taking into account many intensional combinations.
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> By the way, did you know that some plant loves music. There is even a 
> dancing plant, which seems to dance on classical melody, but not on noise 
> or on too rocky music.
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> If interested here is a video on plant's mind:
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeX6ST7rexs&list=WL20F101EB06378011
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