On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:11 AM, Kim Jones <kimjo...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> > On 4 Mar 2014, at 9:48 am, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Without listening to that (since I'm at work) I am under the impression > that "Carmina Burana" is, at the beginning at least, 4 beats to the bar, > not 3? > > > > Maybe I missed the point. I am not "musical" (except that I like listening > to music). > > > > You would have to be halfway musical to even pick up on that! Indeed "O > Fortuna" (the first song of Orff's "Carmina Burana") is cast in 3 beats to > the bar at the opening, certainly when it gets fully under way... > Yes, for these beginning measures of "O Fortuna"; but Orff was like Stravinsky and their successors with playing around with meter, especially when you look at the whole work: meter can and does change at any moment. Not least because of the conversational/prose character of the texts as basis. This plus frequent caesura use makes it so "prose-like, naturally conversational" and the rhythmic complexity (frequent changes in meter of two, threes, fives, fours, sevens) under the hood is not simple to discern, without a deeper look. Fun stuff :-) PGC > > I just checked it on the full orchestral score. This is interesting > because the "threeness" of this huge opening is not explicit, which is what > I was saying earlier. "Beat" in music is simple arithmatic, yet even with > such simple resources as ordinal numbers associating with each other > (somehow!) to produce these qualia that gives me an aesthetic impression of > circularity is already incredibly advanced and difficult to describe. Tis > the magic of the numbers. > > Music IS numbers, but the qualia it induces in my consciousness are > something else. If I understand that part of comp correctly. > > K > > > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > ============================ > > Kim Jones B.Mus.GDTL > > Email: kimjo...@ozemail.com.au > Mobile: 0450 963 719 > Landline: 02 9389 4239 > Web: http://www.eportfolio.kmjcommp.com > > "Never let your schooling get in the way of your education" - Mark Twain > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
