On 26 March 2014 14:49, Stathis Papaioannou <stath...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 26 March 2014 12:40, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Yes, that's what I was trying to get at. Assuming that consciousness
>> arises somehow from the quantum state of your brain, and assuming that
>> identical quantum states are sufficiently identical that consciousness
>> continues when your quantum state is duplicated, regardless of where that
>> happens (as Frank Tipler assumes when he says you can die and wake up in a
>> simulated version of yourself at the end of time) - then you effectively
>> exist in all the (infinite number of) places your brain's quantum state
>> does. I've heard from my good friend the internet that the number of
>> possible quantum states a brain can be in is around 10 ^ 10 ^ 70, which
>> probably makes the nearest exact copy of my brain quite a long way away
>> (assuming an infinite universe with the same laws of physics throughout,
>> and similar initial conditions, and ergodicity whatever that is, etc, etc).
>> But given worlds enough and time, as we are in eternal inflation for
>> example, I'm virtually guaranteed to be peppered around the place, a
>> monstrous regiment which you will be pleased to know is ridiculously far
>> away, well beyond our cosmic horizon for a googolplex years to come.
>>
>> However, this assumes these copies are all me, or maybe I should start
>> using the Royal "we" from now on (if my name hasn't given that away
>> already). So I am she as she is me as you are me and we are all together,
>> except for you. To not assume this - to assume these are all different
>> people who happen to think they are me - is I think the same as assuming
>> that identical quantum states can nevertheless be distinguished, somehow -
>> but I believe the observed properties of BECs argues against this?
>>
>
> What is the difference between the copies being you and only thinking they
> are you?
>

Well, quite, that's what I just said.

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